Really he must have agarage full no one uses 6” pots anymore 4” with Leds in the 3500- 5000K range are what is needed. That mimics daylight and keeps colors true even at night.

Yes UCL and then lamp lighting once we decide what furniture to buy. They are running wire for floor outlets with enough wire looped to add them wherever we wind up putting lamps. It was suggested I put a centered light fixture in the family room but with all three lights from the island, entry and dining area visible from the front door I didn’t want to overwhelm the eye or have to agonize over yet another lighting concern. Plus 8’ ceilings do not lend themselves to hanging fixtures in the middle of the room and I’m having a hard time finding an entry light I love. Thanks for confirming my own thoughts on the lighting. I love Houzz and use it daily it seems for ideas.

@PatriciaColwellConsulting [How do I mark this post so she perhaps sees this reply?] I have 9’ ceilings on first floor. For kitchen/family room/hall to foyer, I’ve been telling our contractor that I think strategically placed 4” are big enough—not runway-style illumination. He INSISTS on 6” LED wafers. It’s a narrow kitchen that’ll also have 2 pendants over the island in the center of the length of this space with perimeter cabinets to-the-ceiling, so the ceiling will become more narrow than with the old upper cabinets that do not. He said it’ll look like a bathroom with 4’s. I’m going not even certain I want any wafer lights (Swiss Cheese), but I’m willing if they are small and warm (2700) Don’t you think 4” is okay? We have 4’s in our upstairs bathrooms , but they have 8’ ceilings and are smaller spaces, naturally.

I’m certain it’s because he has a bunch ready-to-go in his truck (they are from Menards, and he showed them to me.). This has become an extremely expensive (our choices, for better or worse) remodel. I don’t want HUGE, bright spots on the ceiling. I prefer hanging lights with a soft, warm glow or even lamps around a room.

I know this is an old post, but I’m glad to find it. Hoping I can get a resolution on what’s best before he goes cutting holes.

…and maybe I’m wrong about the temperature color at 2700–I won’t go above 3500, though. All our bulbs are traditional warm tones (chandeliers, lamps, under cabinet, etc. ).

yalemichmom: What are the dimensions of the kitchen?

yalemichmom: If you will cut and paste your post into a new post rather than tagging onto a five year old one, you'll get more attention and help (at first I was confused by the OP's questions vs yours.) Your contractor doesn't get to INSIST on anything; he works for you and you're paying the bills. As far as 4" cans looking "like a bathroom" it's more the opposite. In any case, to know whether the smaller ones you want would be an okay amount of light, first you need to known the specs (how many lumens each one puts out.) Different total lumens are recommended for brightly lit kitchens vs hallways and living rooms, so knowing room dimensions, how many fixtures are planned, and how many lumens per will shed more light on the situation (pun intended.) It sounds as if you much prefer less light rather than brightly lit areas, and it's a sure bet that most 4" fixtures put out less lumens than comparable 6" ones. Tell him to not start cutting holes before YOU have decided which fixtures, how many, and where...or that he will be fixing it on his dime.

debrak6– thank you for your reply. You are right on all points! I always feel if I post something as a “new” topic, someone will jump in and refer me to an already posted question. I agree, I should just start over. Kind of scary when 2019 still feels like ”not long ago!” Think I’m still suffering from the pandemic ”gap” of time. I’m a bad estimator of the square footage. Will figure it out and post in a new thread.