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Feedback on HVAC design

7 years ago
Hi All

Climate zone: 3 (northern CA)
Outdoor temp range: 32-91
Indoor temp: 68 heating, 75 cooling
Area: 4322 sq ft
Heating load calc: 51477
Cooling load calc: 43873

Ducts in vented crawl space
Blower door test results: 4 ACH50

Recommended:

- Bryant (HVAC request) 987MA66100V21 (98,000 max BTUH, 39,000 min) due to length of duct runs on single story home

- 3.5 ton evaporator coil

- Broan HRV (HRV250TE) “HRV to run at high speed whenever the comfort system is running, whether heating or cooling. This should increase comfort and boost total air flow by a min 200CFM to 1,676 CFM design to 1,876 CFMm when equipment is running. HRV drawing air from the system central return and exhaust it outside and drawing air from outside and delivering tempered outside air to the central supply plenum.”

-Ecobee Gen III thermostats with remote sensors


I don’t know very much about HVAC or HRVs but read somewhere that:

1) you don’t need one in my climate zone when ACH50 > 3

2) Not a good idea to tie HRV into HVAC duct work

3) Ecobee 3 doesn’t work well with specified Bryant furnace

Would appreciate any feedback you may have on the system recommendation and/or configuration.

Comments (6)

  • 7 years ago

    Where in Nor Cal are you - Coastal, Bay Area, or Inland (unlikely if summer max is 91) ?

  • 7 years ago

    Inland (Santa Rosa) and you are right it gets hotter than that in Aug


  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I'm in your general area but to the south. How old is the house, how well insulated and how tight? (But I'm a fellow homeowner, not in the business, but have had major HVAC work done in the past 2 years)

  • 7 years ago

    House is 60 years old... 2x4 walls and new insulation to R-11, attic at r-30 and floors to R-19. House is tighter after air sealing-- went from 12 ACH50 down to 4.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I should preface my comments by saying that while I consider myself to be practical, I'm not an engineer or a person who is militant or uber-motivated about building science. I like to do what is practical without going to the n-th degree with what may be possible (and ecologically sound) but not economical. We've beefed up our attic to a bit more than R-30 but took the advice of the insulation contractor who said insulating the floor was probably not worth doing. We have put in double windows throughout.

    I have a house about the same size as yours. My enlightened HVAC contractor had originally proposed 6 tons of cooling but agreed that 5 tons would probably do fine. It has been fine, long runs and very comfortable on the hottest days.

    With that in mind, I'd be concerned that 3.5 tons may be a shade small. 3.5 tons is 42000 btuh and since your load calc is at 44K, I might round up the small amount to 4 tons (48K) rather than down. It's a small difference but I'd rather be off slightly (and only slightly) on the high side than on the low side.

    You've cited a modulating furnace and that should provide good comfort. One concern, and a reason why I avoided a variable speed unit, was the thought that the fan operating at a low speed might not push much air to the far end of the ducts. My contractor agreed with that as a concern and so we didn't go that route. My house is > 100 feet long.

    If your HVAC contractor says that the max performance would come from a thermostat of the same brand (ie, Bryant), I would go with that. All up-market units have internet accessibility, you should be most concerned with its function.

    HRVs? I think these aren't common in our area except for the newest and tightest houses. Mine's about 50 years old and I like a small crack in a few windows, and sometimes with a bathroom exhaust fan running, to bring in fresh air.

    Good luck, take my comments as just one guy's personal opinions.

    PS - I too have Bryant equipment and am about to buy more for a second house. I'm very happy with it. But more important is having a great contractor. Good equipment doesn't make up for a crappy contractor.

  • 7 years ago
    Thanks Elmer. Appreciate the sage advice.