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Gall on new rose

7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

One of my roses came in with it on the cane, right at the soil line. What can I do for it? What should i disinfect my pruners with?My whole order came in messed up. Fedex had to rebox it, and when I opened the second box, everything was slung around. Had to cut almost all top growth off of these Tea roses. I don't know if I can even get them to live. Any advice welcome. So sad, disheartened, and disappointed.
Edited to say, I didn't see the gall until I had cut the top growth out of them all.

Comments (23)

  • 7 years ago

    I'll tell you what I did with them. As soon as I realized it was there, I sterilized my pruners, and put them in a plastic bag, in the trash.

    Alana8aSC thanked jerijen
  • 7 years ago

    What should I sterilize the pruners with? Bleach?

  • 7 years ago

    Not good for the blades, but it would work. Others may have better ideas.

    Alana8aSC thanked jerijen
  • 7 years ago

    Alana -- Just out of curiosity -- do you mind saying the source for this galled rose?

    If you DON'T, I will understand, but I would strongly urge you to notify the seller.

  • 7 years ago
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    Yea I know. I'm waiting on some ideas.


    Should I give the remaining ones some fish fertilizer? I am not sure how they will do. I know Teas don't like trimming and these have just a little left. Or should I just chunk them all. Fedex did a real number on them. Re-boxed them upside down and looks like they just shook them up. So much damage! It just hurt my heart. They were not stapled to the box, all were just loose and shook all around, like they were kicking the box or something. Box was damaged so bad. I think this is my first horror story. I've had a few get alittle damage, but the roses inside were fine. These were not.

  • 7 years ago
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    I have heard a 10% bleach solution or a 70% alcohol is adequate for sterilizing. Bleach is more corrosive to clippers, so I prefer and use the alcohol.

    Alana8aSC thanked plantloverkat north Houston - 9a
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you! Alcohol! My brain wouldn't work for nothing! I think it was the stress of opening that box and dealing with the aftermath!

  • 7 years ago
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    Jeri, I would message you but you have it turned off. Here a picture. I am sure it's gall. There the cane, then roundesh ball of brown stuff and then smaller cane up under it. When I was feeling it to figure out what it was some broke away. That's what it looks like to me.


    It's not them best picture, but you can feel how it lumps around it underneath.

    Edited to say, I have told the nursery. And even though I normally let stuff slide, and lost a few roses here and there, and never asked for refunds the last couple of years.

    I asked for a refund with this one.


    Jeri I sent you a message on fb.

  • 7 years ago

    Alana, I am SO very sorry. What should have been a very exciting and joyful experience has turned into something very different, and what a bummer that is. I'm like you, I don't ask for refunds, but in this case, with a diseased rose, that's a whole other story. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the remaining roses, damaged though they are, will recover. They're so often tougher than one might think, and I hope that will be the case here. Please keep us updated on everything. We all feel your pain.

    Alana8aSC thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you so much Ingrid! I know you know all to well just how I feel. Usually I feel good about roses coming back, but Teas are different, and these got a good haircut.

  • 7 years ago
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    Sorry to hear you had this problem , Alana.

    Stephanie, in case you are reading, I'd like to know how effective you think it is to sterilize pruners in fire? That is what I do. I have a gas stove in my house and I put the blades in the fire for maybe a minute. They heat up enough that when I put the blades in cold water they generate steam. So is that enough to kill most bacteria or virus?

    I used to not believe alcohol killed viruses. That's weird that 70% works better than 100%. Didn't know that a bleach solution took so long to kill stuff. I thought it would work immediately.

    I use cheap pruners because I like them, and because I don't have to worry about harming them with sterilizing them. I buy mine at the Dollar Tree. Sorry if this hijacks your thread, Alana, but it is too tempting to ask this stuff of a microbiologist.

    Alana8aSC thanked erasmus_gw
  • 7 years ago

    Kim Rupert says that if a rose has gall ( and some have a lot of gall), the bacteria is probably throughout the whole plant. Gall bacteria must be fairly common, and gets in through wounds. Propagating roses from cuttings you make wounds. It is kind of amazing that gall is not more prevalent. I have heard of people cutting out gall and their plant going on to be ok, but I don't know for how long that plant was ok. If the bacteria is REALLY common, it may not be a terrible risk to keep a plant with gall. Not sure.

    Alana8aSC thanked erasmus_gw
  • 7 years ago

    Alana, I am sorry to hear the condition of your roses. That should be your happiest moments. I hope the nursery will replaced the gall rose. I know nothing about gall and I learn to used disinfectant Lysol spray on each of my uses. I learn this trick from Stephen Scanniello .
    I hope the rest of your new roses will put out great growth.
    jin

    Alana8aSC thanked Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
  • 7 years ago

    Alana, I am sorry, too. I think it is VERY important to notify a nursery about such a serious problem with the order; I hope you also mentioned to them the conditions of the box when you recieved it. Both you and the nursery should complain to Fedex for such incompetant service.

    Alana8aSC thanked User
  • 7 years ago
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    Jin you use lysol on your pruners?


    Thanks Linda, I've heard much the same. And it's what people have been saying. I do remember about someone cutting it out, and it going on to do fine. Just not sure about planting it in my ground. Not something to do, since I don't have it.


    Bart , I did notify the nursery, and sent pictures. Then they asked for more box pictures. Then at 11 last night wanted more pictures of the roses individually. That kind of irked me. If they needed them , they should have already asked for it. In my opinion. I'm already upset about the order. I know most of it is FedEx fault. I went and took them, in the dark, cause I'm going to be busy the until next week.

    One or two were not too bad, but I know I will lose more growth as Teas hate to be cut. And they are slow to grow in my climate anyway, for whatever reason. I was already taking a chance ordering them, after all the Teas I have lost over our wacky winter, So I needed them to be as big as possible going into it. The best looking one was the one with the gall. Here is a picture of one of the worse ones.



    They will probably be fine. It just made me sad to have to loose so much growth, and then the gall saddened me even more. Then losing growth needed saddened me. I guess I will push them with fish fertilizer, and try to get some growth going as quickly as possible.

    You can see how badly they were mashed looking at the pot. Here is what I saw upon opening the box. Then I gotta get off here, before I'm late.

    this last one is a good representation of how badly the canes were bent and how much had to be cut off each one.

    my box.

    It was put in the new FedEx box upside down, which contributed to more breaking. I think it got wet. That's what it looks like.

  • 7 years ago

    What a mess. I have received roses just stuck in a box unsecured and always wonder how they usually manage to arrive ok. Seems like a reckless shipping method. But I have some sympathy for nurseries in general because they depend so much on the delivery service and they do disappoint sometimes. We all rely on them to do a good job.

    This year one plant I received was broken. Only about 1/4" of the plant remains, but it has good roots so I'm waiting to see if it recovers. It's Mrs. John Laing. The company was very quick to offer a new plant of different variety.

    I think Fed Ex should be responsible for the damage but the nursery should pack them better.

    Alana8aSC thanked erasmus_gw
  • 7 years ago
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    They were supposed to be stapled to the sides of the box but somehow the box got wet, all the staples came loose. FedEx reboxed it upside down. Then it looks liked it got played football with. I could be wrong on that, but they were sure shook around some. Moved around upside down, and they probably had the box in all kids of positions. I do know they notified the nursery, it was on the thing to notify the nursery when it was dropped off. I wasn't at home and came home to them.

    If there were to replace the gall one and either replace or do something about the two smaller ones, and for the fact of what they were put through and how much I had to cut off I guess I would be happy. I think I deserve some type of compensation. Waiting to hear back from them. I do understand both sides though., his and mine. I also know he put in for insurance through FedEx, cause the first thing he wanted pictures of was the box. I don't understand why he waited so long asking for pictures of the roses though. I noticed after pictures, I missed some that had to be cut off. Cut that off, went back inside, put away the pruners. Went out to feed the cats, looking at them again, I still missed a peice, I'll have to cut when I get home. Hopefully it is just the one.


    All the leaves on all of them are wilted and hanging down, attesting to the beat up they have took.

  • 7 years ago

    So sad Alana.

    Alana8aSC thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 7 years ago

    I totally agree with Bart and Eramus..call the nursery let them know. Also talk to FedEx. You are not responsible. It is btw the nursery and FedEx. You don't want to be on a short end of the stick besides you are on fixed income . You have the pics.

    Yes, we used disinfectant spray . Dr. Malcolm had over 20 spray cans for everyone to used so we can easily jump from one rose bush to another using same pruners. Pretty neat, huh ? It is so much easier and quicker. I do that style at home....and I love it :)

    jin

    Alana8aSC thanked Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
  • 7 years ago
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    I use H2O2 to clean pruners.

    Alana8aSC thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 7 years ago

    Oh, Alana, I’m so sorry to hear about this too. What a terrible thing—hoping it will all get worked out. :-)

    Alana8aSC thanked Perma n’ Posies/9A FL
  • 7 years ago

    Ok all is resolved. Thank so much everyone. He sent me a email and refund, he did more than I was wanting or expected, and I really enjoyed the apology email. I came home to it already done. Also wants to keep in touch and see how the roses do.