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Lavender for MA Zone 5b?

7 years ago

Hi All, have not posted here in a while. I need advise on growing Lavender. I have tried unsuccessfully to grow lavender (purchased at box stores) as a perennial (which it is supposed to be in Zone 5b), but unfortunately have had zero luck. I put it in a well drained sunny location and watered well until I thought it was "established", but it did not make it back next Spring.


Which Lavender varieties would you recommend for MA Zone 5b (do they come back for you)?

Any other planting/care taking advise for it to come back, year after year?


Thanks!

Daffodil33

Comments (17)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    English lavender (Lavandula angustifolia) is the most cold hardy species. Two varieties recommended for zone 5 are Hidcote and Twickle Purple. Munstead also stands cold very well, but doesn't produce long stemmed flowers. There are two French lavender varieties from a cross between L. angustifolia and L. spicata that are not quite as hardy, but might work out. The cultivars are Grosso and Fred Boutin.

    In general, plants survive better in the ground than in pots. A spot sheltered from wind helps, and snow cover protects plants even better. However, perfect drainage is absolutely essential. Planting at the top or on the side of a slope is best.

    daffodil33 thanked mindshift
  • 7 years ago

    Munstead does better here than Hidcote. I had very good luck with Lady when it was widely available as seed. There is a relatively new lavender that people seem to have had good luck with, but I haven't grown it and don't remember the name.

    The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to check your soil pH, and if it is low, add lime. It is much easier to change the pH than to make 'perfect' drainage, particularly since frozen soil doesn't drain almost by definition.

    daffodil33 thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I am colder than you and have tried a bunch of different lavenders. The one that has done best is Phenomenal which is on year 4 in my garden.

    daffodil33 thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks all. Any recommendations on where I could buy Munstead or Phenomenal? I usually go to box stores, and they don't even name their varieties, it's just "Lavendar". Thanks

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I got Phenomenal via mail order after seeing it reviewed on the Perennials Forum, IIRC. Mine came from Wayside Gardens since they had another plant I couldn’t find elsewhere. It came in a 6pack for less than $20 I think. I only find individual plants now. While I have had mixed results with Wayside over the years, both the lavender and the clematis I got were first rate plants. Bluestone has Phenomenal also.

    daffodil33 thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 7 years ago

    I will just add this, which I read in one of Carol Stocker’s Boston Globe columns: lavenders do not care for much of the soil in the greater Boston area, which she calls “blue clay.” She gardens in Milton, IIRC. I assume that this is because of the drainage requirement mentioned above. I’ve had fairly good luck growing lavender in my town, which on a geographic survey map is located right in top of deposits of sand and gravel! And indeed, when we were being hooked up to sewers a number of years ago, the trench kept trying to refill, the soil was so sandy.


    So, if you do have drainage problems, perhaps amending with sand will help. I am in zone 6a, but right on the line with 5b according to people who live a bit further west.

    daffodil33 thanked Elizabeth Eisenmann
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks all. I do water however until it is "established" right?

  • 7 years ago

    Will sand also raise the pH?

    daffodil33 thanked kitasei
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    The above lavender is on its third year and I'm surprised it survived this winter with nary a blight or struggle. I grew it from seed and it is either Hidcote Superior or Ellagance (their spelling, not mine) Purple. I'll have to look through my wintersowing records to see. I sowed both, but it's possible only one type made it into the ground. They are in a raised bed so drainage is good. I think I also added something to increase pH without being too careful, like throwing some wood ash in. One "weird" thing I did do, which I learned from the Shaker village in Canterbury, NH, is add a layer of white pea gravel or small stones to sit on top of the soil. The Shakers apparently did it not only for drainage, but it help the sun reflect back up onto the lavender and keep it dryer and increase sun exposure. I have no idea if the rocks help now because the plants seem to cover the area completely, but it is possible they help in spring when they are small and waking up again during lots of rain and less sun.


    daffodil33 thanked deanna in ME Barely zone 6a, more like 5b
  • 7 years ago

    I have tons of lavender, but I do not know the exact variety. It thrives here in my zone 6b garden with absolutely no winter dieback, so it may well be hardy in your zone. It self-seeds like crazy. I am always pulling up many plants every spring as weeds!


    daffodil33 thanked bill_ri_z6b
  • 7 years ago

    Wow Bill, so beautiful! Full sun, I assume? Thanks.

  • 7 years ago

    Yes it's full sun all day. Reseeds like crazy, but that's OK.


    daffodil33 thanked bill_ri_z6b
  • 7 years ago

    Unfortunately I could only find Spanish lavender. When I learnt it was not hardy to zone five b, I potted the plants. What is the best way to overwinter the pots? Options are unheated sun room, or either a dark unseated garage or dark heated basement. Thanks.

  • 7 years ago

    Unheated sunroom. It has no chance of surviving the winter in the dark.

    daffodil33 thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 7 years ago

    I'm in MA zone 6a so I get your struggle
    lavender constantly dies on me. The only one that's survived a winter was Dilly Dilly, hopefully that helps you. I also tend to not water it as much as my other plants

    daffodil33 thanked Kali C
  • 7 years ago

    Mine is English lavender and is perfectly hardy here in zone 6B. I would wonder why struggle with other non-hardy types?


    daffodil33 thanked bill_ri_z6b