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My new under cabinet lighting visible while sitting in my adjoining fa

7 years ago

I just had new cabinets with under cabinet lighting installed. They are not visible until I sit in my family room and look into my kitchen. It then looks like an airport landing strip. I can get light rail but I still see it. Light rail won’t stop me from seeing it die my couches and living room chairs being way lower than a kitchen table chair- so don’t feel it’s going to be worth the extra expense. (Custom cabinets and custom paint equals more money).It’s highly visible and very annoying. Any suggestions. I’m seriously considering not using the lighting.

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  • 7 years ago

    Look into light strips and replace your under cabinet lighting with those. But also install the light rail, it will help to not only hide the lights but to also finish off the cabinets.

  • 7 years ago

    I just had my cabinets done and spent over 1000 so not thinking of additional cost. My contractor said these look better and don’t give the dot effect off the Granite. I wish I had thought of this before. I tested light rail and doesn’t change side view from chair in family room but it does add a nice finish look

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    A light rail should have been planned for all along. The cabinets are naked without it. I hope your statement is a big typo on your cabinet cost.

  • 7 years ago

    Kathy, yes the light rail will help when the cabs are being seen from the side. We installed our light rails around the corner to the wall, which is the normal thing to do.

  • 7 years ago

    I have the LED tape light strips with a diffuser over them. I also have a light rail. I don't get the dotted bulb effect you are getting with yours. You might want to visit a good lighting store and see what other types are available that you might like better.



  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Light rail will help.

    Also consider a different hue of bulb. The lights are giving off a yellow hue.


  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Here's some more info to help pick out hue temperature for lighting.

    A dimmer switch & timer is nice to come home to.








    I would try daylight to cool white temperature.


    It will compliment the colors of your kitchen.


    Nice color choice of cabinets with floor combo in your kitchen. ;)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    With your cabinets, I would do a simple squared light rail under your cabinets to blend with your type of cabinets. Here's a photo example of the look of the chair rail style suggested.



  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    As mentioned above, get an LED lighting strip, aluminum channel, and cover it with a diffuser, it will blend in the lighting and produce vibrant feel without showing the source of lighting.




  • 7 years ago

    Either that, or put a lip on the bottom of the cabinets, buy putting a small strip of wood all the way around the bottom edge. That being said, unless this is dimmable it too much light and also should have lent itself to the 3000k side of neutral white coloring. Ill also mention that the bronze light fixture with the multi colored glass is semi off as well.

  • 7 years ago


    And to be that picky lighting person, are the can installs not complete yet?

  • 7 years ago

    They are not complete. They had misplaced them and are realigning them with the cabinets

  • 7 years ago

    Are your cabinets hung the standard 18” above the counter? They look a lit higher which might explain why you can see the lighting, but doesn’t help because I doubt you would want to lower the cabinets.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks for tip on replacing pendant light. That’s next on my to do.
    Do you have info on where the light could be purchased
    Also my ceiling lights can be switch to all three color tones. They had it on daylight but honestly I felt like I was in a hospital.
    I will have dimmers on ceiling and undercabinet
    Trying to convince my hubby to change undercabinet before the crew is gone. He’s fearful of how much more expense will be involved. Anyone have any idea 200 or 1000 dollars. I’m trying to plea my case.

  • 7 years ago

    Sorry Green Design 1500 was paid for undercabinet lighting. I wish that was the total kitchen cost haha.

  • 7 years ago

    You paid 1500$ for that?

  • 7 years ago

    Who had a hand in picking those? Under cabs ?

  • 7 years ago

    The builder.

  • 7 years ago

    Good lord, bring him in and show him, this is not at all what should have been specked out.

  • 7 years ago

    My friend had her kitchen done by this builder. I just spoke with her yesterday and she wasn’t given those undercabinet. She has the led. I think this is going to cost me more to replace. So frustrated

  • 7 years ago

    No any builder who doesn’t want his name shamed should be willing to work on this.

  • 7 years ago

    The electrical is all there so its a matter of swapping the fixtures-and adding a lip

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    "You paid 1500$ for that?"

    I believe it. Our electrician wanted similar amount for installing UL under our one and only upper cab, 60" in total and we provided the fixture! For some reason, they charge these off the chart prices on UL. His other work, while not cheap, was within reason. We declined, only had him install the wiring and box behind the cab. We then put our UL ribbon up ourselves. SMH.

  • 7 years ago

    Traci- yes they are 18 from countertop- however no countertop in yet. I only see them when I sit in the adjoining family room since couch and furniture is lower than my countertop kitchen table.

  • 7 years ago

    Welp hate say it but there's the next thing you wont like... depending on the counters those bulbs will probably reflect as little dots across the surface...

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    A close up shows the type of lighting strip used was not a good choice with full overlay cabinets. The underneath reveal is not enough to cover certain types of lighting.

    Also, Since sitting lower at a distance & therefore can see even more under cabinets, a simple light rail will help. Test it out by taking a piece of cardboard cut in a strip & get someone to sit at a distance & view while the other holds up under cabinet.

    The good news is there is electricity in place, so swapping out the lights should not cost as much as inital cost of installing without electricity.



    Suggest something more like this.


    Link for more info on under cabinet lighting https://sebringdesignbuild.com/how-to-choose-the-best-under-cabinet-lighting/

    Hope that helps :)

  • 7 years ago

    I had already tested light rail. It doesn’t cover the side view just the front. Thank you for the link. I’m going to talk to builder. I’m sure there are holes in the cabinet that will need repair but like the pic you sent

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Good job testing it out 1st.


    Hopefully the builder will get this to your liking soon.


    btw, Thanks for updating along the way.

  • 7 years ago

    Can you tell me what type of lights were in the picture. They didn’t seem to be the same as in the article
    I see that the tape lights look like dots on countertop. I need a diffused slim light that is in your picture

  • 7 years ago

    Some tape light brands include diffusers. Google should come up with some brands.

  • 7 years ago

    Btw that pendant light I posted is by Kichler lighting.

  • 7 years ago

    you mentioned your experiment with the cardboard strip in front helped but you could still see the lights from the side:

    pippabean_5b

    Kathy,
    yes the light rail will help when the cabs are being seen from the
    side. We installed our light rails around the corner to the wall, which
    is the normal thing to do.

  • 7 years ago

    Do you have any lighting show rooms near you?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Have you heard back from the builder? Hope you are getting a solution you like soon.

  • 7 years ago

    Builder is on vacation so next week I should know something

  • 7 years ago

    Update
    Spoke to builder and he prefers these since they are longer lasting bulbs. They are led but use regular wire. He feels they provide better task lighting and less failure. The tape lighting sticky tap moves (which a friend has and it does unstick)He suggested I try a strip led light and see how I like it. I picked Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.

    16 ft. White Indoor LED Tape Light w/remote (Plug-in or direct wire)

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/307883100
    It seems that there are a bunch of tiny dots vs several bulbs. The diffuser doesn’t seem to hide the dots. It’s a very stark white vs the lights I have is warmer.
    He can change them for no cost. He said the tape lights are cheaper than what he installed. It would require changing all of the wiring but luckily the countertop is not installed. Either way I still need the light rail. My builder said people had moved away wanting the light rail but he really thinks it finishes the kitchen
    Anyone have a specific light that they can post with picks showing how it reflects on a shiny countertop. Thank you small!

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Kitchen almost complete. Still waiting for counter top. Same issue with lighting. I really don't like to look at the lighting hardware from my family room. I also decided to place all my electrical outlets (under cabinets) so it looks like I will need a light rail. You may need to zoom photo to see. Hope the light rail works. I will run a test with cardboard.


  • 2 years ago

    The light rail wasn't enough to block my view so they ordered extra trim that's 3.5 and inserted it under cabinet. It hangs 1.5 inches down from outside view of cabinet- not ideal but it blocks the view.