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Open wall, pass thru, neither?

7 years ago

Recently retired, purchased small fixer upper. Question is should I remove the wall to the 8x9 galley kitchen, remove part of it as a pass through or leave it as is. Thinking if I used the slightly smaller breakfast area for main dining, then the open wall with bar stools might work. Think it would be too crowded if I kept current dining area. I may have a crowd over on occasion, and want them to have comfortable seating for meals. Want to decide first if I would like it enough before consulting a pro for the load bearing wall question. Thoughts welcome.

Comments (17)

  • 7 years ago

    I like the idea of a pass-through as long as it doesn't impact kitchen storage too much. I actually incorporated a pass-through in our new build design instead of having an open kitchen.

  • 7 years ago

    A passthrough would keep more kitchen storage and you could add a bar for some seating or serving on the diningroom side. I prefer to hide the clutter of cooking from the living areas.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I wuld remove that wall but then the kitchen will need work for sure so depends on how much you want to undertake I really dislike pass throughs they do nothing to open up spaces and are a totally dated look. Could you post a floor plan on graph paper to scale of the whole kitchen DR breakfast room and LR

  • 7 years ago

    I too dislike a pass through.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I agree with creating one large dining space instead of 2 smaller ones. Would need more photos and possibly a floor plan to comment more. Thanks!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    We had a client that wanted to have more privacy between kitchen and dining room. We suggested to open the walls and have a large space between kitchen and dining. She preferred to have only a passthrough. It worked her and didn't compromise store. We created a great layout for her kitchen.

    we need a floor plan and photos to give a better feedback.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for the input! This was sketched quickly on the ONLY piece of graph paper in the house this morning-Sorry so rough!

  • 7 years ago

    Here’s a pic of the kitchen-the other side of the wall in question.

  • 7 years ago

    The little black wall by door has been removed.

  • 7 years ago

    If this was my fixer, I would remove the wall and re-configure the kitchen. Pass-throughs were popular in the 90s and 2000s, nobody used them which is why they're not popular now.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
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    This is a challenging space. If you are willing to do a total remodel, there are more options. But for now, I would do as in the drawing below. I would also remove that pony wall. For the kitchen, if you can spare to remove the cabinets, I'd open it up the top half of the wall. (no pass-through and only if there is no tv) I'd buy a table with an extension that can be used when you have extra guests.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I see you are saying the half wall is gone. That's great. Are you planning on a single flooring throughout?

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, single flooring throughout with possible exceptions in bathrooms and foyer. Unfortunately no funds for total remodel. Your right...such a challenge to work around this space!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    It is! I think the arrangement I created is your best bet. In the breakfast area, I'd add whatever suits you most: it could be a rolling island, a breakfast bar with seating, more storage, etc.

  • 7 years ago

    is that wall load bearing?

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    you could put cabinets and even counter top all the way into the breakfast nook, like a built in buffet/ china cabinet. I just thought of something, where would the fridge go, because it cant stay where it is I feel like this needs a lot more thought, like do you need a formal dining room, how much are you spending, are you planning to leave the appliances where they are...