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heat tolerant roses

7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

PLEASE PLEASE HELP
I have 4 of different kind of potted roses..,
-intrigue rose (Deep Purple/ mauve)
-touch of class rose (bright red/deep orange)
-perfume delight rose (deep pink)
-Tiffany Rose ( light pink)
And need to be transplant this fall

My question is;
Which 2 roses more heat tolerant,
get 3-4 hours sunlight and 3 hours afternoon sun from 12-3 or 4 pm maybe


i live in high desert, victorville, CA

THIS is my first time gardening

with roses

im scared already

Comments (31)

  • 7 years ago

    I have a Tiffany rose that handles the Texas heat quiet well. sprinkle some epsom salts around them when you plant them.

  • 7 years ago

    I'm assuming you are talking about the blooms, not the plants, which will be fine as long as they are watered.
    Humid heat (Texas) seems to be easier on roses than dry heat ( Las Vegas, you, or Sacramento, me)
    On your list , I only have Intrigue. The edges crisp pretty fast above 95 degrees. I love Intrigue, but it's more of a spring rose.
    I also like to visit nurseries in summer to check out who looks good and who looks awful. Honestly I don't think any of your varieties have blooms that hold up long above 95. So you might just enjoy them on the bush in winter, and cut them for inside in fall and spring. Or I always recommend Strike It Rich as my #1 rose above 100 degrees. Rainbow Sorbet is also looking good this year, and we have 105 forecast this Thursday
    Carla in Sac

  • 7 years ago
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    I think you picked four good hot weather roses, you made some good choices!. My only consideration is that Intrigue’s color would look better with less afternoon sun, so I’d give it one of the less sunny spots. ToC is a bit taller , Intrigue a bit shorter than the other two. Otherwise they are interchangeable and you could arrange them as you please.

    Carla,

    Funny you should think CA is harder on roses than TX. I think the opposite. Your cool nights give the plants a breather each evening, our sultry nights stress them out 7x24, provide a lovely home for blackspot. I guess the grass is always browner on our own side of the fence!

  • 7 years ago
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    Some of the rosarian said
    Roses with light colors can not handle the heat and they’re blooms will turn crispy

    our July is the hottest month, temperature always 102-109 for 3 weeks..

    i have 2 spots for 2 roses

    that spots will get 3-4 hours morning sun and 3-4 hours afternoon heat..


    thanks all for helped!

  • 7 years ago

    Elen you are in a great place to grow roses! Not too cold in winter, not as hot as most of the SW desert areas and little by way of fungal disease. I lived there 30 years ago and loved it.

    The only rose on your list I’ve grown is Intrigue and agree with giving it afternoon shade. One thing too look for is iron deficiency but easily solved by giving chelated iron every year. Good luck!

    Ben, I must agree with Carla about the dry heat being harder on not just roses but any non desert plant. Your firefighter is magnificent but I’ve shown a pic of a newly opened bloom on mine that dried as it opened. That’s the case for a lot of roses. Most of our roses are pretty beat up now and they are in the best spot in the yard.

    Plum perfect is not so perfect here with all its leaves dried and on the ground and bare canes, Ingrid Bergman not much better and all the others showing various amounts of sunburn and dried up leaves. When we get the monsoon humidity with our heat here people wilt but the roses perk up!



  • 7 years ago

    My Firefighter is the same, even though it is advertised as heat tolerant. Here it is this morning, along with Strike It Rich. 107 forecast the next couple of days, so we will see if Strike It Rich can power through!
    Carla in Sac

  • 7 years ago
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    So?? What about my question

    I need to transplant that 2 roses to the place that only handle 3-4 hours morning sunlight and 3 hours afternoon heat

    Right now

    I have

    -intrigue rose (Deep Purple/ mauve)

    -touch of class rose (bright red/deep orange)

    -perfume delight rose (deep pink)

    -Tiffany Rose ( light pink)

    So which 2 roses from my list??

    I don’t want get them burn and crispy

  • 7 years ago

    I thought they were being helpful in recommending growing Intrigue with the most amount of shade and perhaps Tiffany in the sunnier spot. It seems red and dark coloured roses need a bit of shade in your brutal heat and sun. In terms of the rest, maybe someone else will pipe in. Have you looked on HMF? Be sure to look under the comments, photos etc. and note where the people live to find someone in a similar situation.

  • 7 years ago

    So, dark colors can’t stand with the heat?? And need shade??

    I thought the light colors have to be in shade when afternoon heat came

  • 7 years ago

    Unfortunately, my answer is, from your list of 4, none of them are going to bloom great in full sun dry heat. The light pinks are going to crisp and fade to white, and the reds are going to crisp and turn brown. Your chosen 4 are not heat stars, and are better winter flowering. Sorry! I know you don't want to hear that.
    Since they are in pots, can't you use this time to experiment with your actual plants to see if any blooms won't crisp in your strongest sun area?
    Carla in Sac

  • 7 years ago

    Sylvia, your CP looks great...mine is reduced to two twigs and no blooms. We have been having temps in the 90's last two months and 100s this month though..

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, Mrs. Gunawan, dark colored flowers are going to burn faster and worse than lighter colored ones will. Dark colors absorb heat while lighter colors reflect more of it. You know how much hotter you are on a hot, sunny day when you wear darker colors than you are wearing lighter ones. None of those are going to have lasting flowers when it is HOT. There is no such thing as a rose flower which won't burn in blistering heat and brilliant sun as you experience. The petals are simply too fragile. Plant your darker colors where they will get more morning sun (cooler light, less heat) and lighter colors where they will receive more of the afternoon sun (hotter light). That should provide you with the best possibilities of flowers, but they ARE going to fry when the heat is at its worst. Unless you can shade them with shade cloth to protect them from the direct, blistering sun, it WILL happen. It's just the way it is. So, you keep them properly watered and wait until the temperatures are cooler and enjoy the wonderful flowers then. We've all done it when the weather is blistering.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Will build some shade for next summer

    i hate summer


    thank you all for the comments and advices

    i appreciated that ❤️


    Love love..

  • 7 years ago

    I used to live down the hill from you in Redlands. At least where I live, and where I live now, it really does not cool off at night. Unless you call mid 70's cool. I don't grow any of the roses that you mentioned. I live in the hotter than Hades central valley of CA and we are supposed to be 107--109 for the rest of the week. Oh joy! It has not gotten below 75 this morning yet. Oh joy! It is going to be a hot one!

    I would try to give my roses afternoon shade and morning sun only. Believe it or not, they will do fine. For roses in the future, you may want to look at roses that were bred in the heat sink of California, by Ralph Moore or Burling Leong. I find that they do well in the heat here. Burling has her own nursery in Visalia. I also find that Roseseek's roses (aka Kim Rupert's roses do very well in the heat too!). They bred (breed) for health and not just a pretty flower.

    Best of luck moving your roses in the fall. If you can wait until the middle of October, when it finally starts to cool down, do so. Your roses will appreciate it more.

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, I will put shade next summer for them..

    will transplant them when the day time temperature 70-80s but not 85 up..


    this is My first time Gardening with roses..

    and right now I’m thinking how to save them from winter..

    i don’t want them die this winter..

    and I don’t know how to protect them from winter..

  • 7 years ago

    How cold do you get there? Are you up in the mountains? Otherwise, I can't imagine roses dying over the winter there.

  • 7 years ago

    Your roses that are planted in the ground should do fine in the winter since it doesn't often get below freezing in Victorville. You can throw an old sheet over them if temperatures are very low; that should be enough to keep them from freezing.

  • 7 years ago

    Hi Vaporvac

    my cold temperature of course not like your zone 6

    i live in zone 8b

    last year we got a litt bit snow

    , and hail storm

    my lowest temperature night in my zone is only 27, sometimes 26

    but with gusty wind too 34mph

    but still I have to protect my roses from cold

    this is my first time with roses

    and this is my first time gardening

    i don’t want them die

    today our Temperapture 105 for 3 days

    but I already put them some shade

  • 7 years ago

    Hi inggrid from zone 9

    i did read some article to protect roses in the winter, some of them said

    that I can protect them with fleece

    is that true??

    what can a fleece??

    blanket for human??

    like fabric fleece??


    if it’s yes.. I prefer with fleece than old sheets

    better rescue first that cure them after winter..

  • 7 years ago

    Do you know if these roses are on their own roots or grafted to an understock?

  • 7 years ago

    Dear Vaporvac,

    my husband bought it for me from Home Depot

    this is my first time gardening

    so i dont know what is own roots or grafted

  • 7 years ago

    Probably they are grafted. I don't know if it's recommended to bury the graft in you area. Maybe someone will comment. That is the weak point as it can freeze if subjected to cold for any length of time. I didn't think it was necessary in your zone.

  • 7 years ago

    No cold protection needed in z 8b for roses own root or grafted.

    Elen Gunawan thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 7 years ago
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    What??

    but i checked already all of my roses hardiness cold is 10

    my winter only get 26-27 at night time

    and that’s the coldest night for my zone during winter time

    below 25 is rare

  • 7 years ago

    @sheila

    for sure I’ll still blanket them with fleece

    because i dont want them die by Gusty wind, our gusty wind can reach 34mph


    i don’t want my roses get die back stem

  • 7 years ago

    We have wind here too. I have had an occasional cane break and I am always sorry to see that. Good luck with your roses Elen.

  • 7 years ago

    @Sheila About the cane break, Is it because you didn’t protect them when winter come ??

  • 7 years ago

    The rare cane breaks occurred with wind or heavy wet snow. I would have to stake all the tall canes to prevent this rare occurrence and I have too many roses to do this. I have just trimmed the broken spot and new canes have grown. Nothing has died as a result of a cane lost.

  • 7 years ago

    Not only do you not need to worry about fleece or any coverings, most likely your roses will keep blooming all winter.
    Winter protection is only for areas with "hard freezes". If your pipes don't freeze where you live, your roses will be fine.
    Carla in Sac

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you @Sheila , @Carla

    thank you thank you so much!!


    have a Bless night from

    High Desert CA

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️