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Cabinets and a not level ceiling...

7 years ago

Trying to figure out how we should finish off our upper cabinets. We have 40” IKEA uppers and the ceiling or 2nd floor floor is not flat. So even though all the cabinets are level and on the same plane to each other, the reveal at the ceiling isn’t consistent. I’ve got a 5/8” gap above the cabinets near the center of the house and 7/8” for the cabinets on the outside walls.

So I’m not sure what to do. The doors and finished ends haven’t been made yet.

Ideas!

Comments (18)

  • 7 years ago

    More photos

  • 7 years ago

    Were you planning on any type of crown? I don’t think the 1/4” difference will be noticeable... I would bet most kitchens have variances like that.

  • 7 years ago

    How much distance do you have between counter top and backsplash? Can you lower the cabinets at all to make it less obvious? Were you planning to finish them with trim at the top? If you had a bigger gap you could just cover it with trim.

  • 7 years ago

    You can get very narrow trim at HD or Lowes - it comes in various widths. You can paint it to match your doors: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Woodgrain-Millwork-WM-254-1-2-in-x-3-4-in-x-96-in-Wood-Pine-S4S-Moulding-109613/203898784?MERCH=REC--pipsem--NA--203898784--N

  • 7 years ago

    @ Kaylie... We've got just over 19" between cabinet bottoms and what will be the finished counter. We wanted a bit more than we used to have 16" because the IKEA uppers are deeper. Plus, we will be doing some sort of under cabinet lights (likely from IKEA as well, just not sure which model).


    One thought was to make the doors taller than the cabinet and leave about 1/8" gap at the top. The finished ends would either run up tight to the ceiling, or to the same height as the doors. Obviously this option would be no trim at top.


    Other option would be to just plane down some material to the exact thickness of the gap and keep the edges square, but bring it flush with finished end and cabinet door. So when the cabinet door is closed the edges of the finished end and the top piece would all be flush.

  • 7 years ago

    @ Hillside... We were going to do crown, however as you know IKEA only comes in 30 and 40" tall uppers. We had 36 before and knew we didn't want to get smaller so we went up to 40 knowing the crown idea would likely be tossed....and I had zero interest in shortening the uppers.

  • 7 years ago

    The problem is that 1/4” with only an inch total is more likely to be noticeable, where 3/4” in a 5” crown isn’t as obvious.

    If it was my kitchen, I’d probably drop them down an inch so I had a little more room to work with. (18” is standard, so it’s still more than the 16” you had before.) My husband absolutely LOVES to redo things after we’ve done them, so a secondary option for me would be to use a small, thin piece of wood attached to the front... I would probably go slightly deeper than the doors (1/4”?), so that it casts a nice shadow line, and it gives the benefit of being more forgiving than trying to match your door depth precisely, which can vary, especially once you start adjusting the hinges after install.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    A professional installer would scribe a flat trim piece to the ceiling to create a level surface to butt the cabinets against. Is that a fix that you could attempt? It’s easier than it sounds as you have a slope rather than waves. Look at a few YouTube videos.

  • 7 years ago

    Drew this up quick.


    Current configuration showing gap on top and gap at back wall due to bracket system.



    This shows a flat finished end panel with a flat piece on top brought flush to the cabinet door and finished end.


    Same idea as above, but with an end that matches the door. This looks a little goofy if i run the panel all the way to the ceiling and maintain the same rail/stile widths because the top rail of the finished end is no longer in line with the door.



    Close up view of the options above.


  • 7 years ago

    I like a finished side panel, personally. I think it helps to keep it from looking like a basic IKEA kitchen.

    I would run the flat piece on top over the side, as well, so everything lines up.

  • 7 years ago

    @ Hillside... I thought about doing that but i was just trying to avoid having another seam above the finished end panel.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I was thinking something like this:



  • 7 years ago

    Or this, but with just the bottom portion:



  • 7 years ago

    Scribe a trim to the ceiling.

  • 7 years ago

    Both options below have the top piece extending past the face of the door and finished end by 1/4"


    Squared idea like Hillside suggested:



    Same as above but with a slight chamfer to break the edge:



  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Either will be fine as a trim. But unless you scribe to the ceiling, the uneven gap will remain. Just adding trim won’t fix the issue. You can use shorter cabinets, to move the cabinet top significantly away from the ceiling if you don’t want to scribe.

  • 7 years ago

    @ Cooks.. Understood. We have textured ceilings so i won't be able to get a tight fit anyways. I would have to either scrape the texture off where that piece would make contact, or just get it as tight as possible and then run a bead of caulk.