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No one can ID it!

7 years ago

I got this plant a few weeks ago, and have posted on several sites. No one can tell me what it is. Any guesses? Not the variegated bear paw, but the one in front of it. Thanks!


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  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Bulb aloe. One name that matches this image is aloe inconspicua

    //the REAL name is aloe albida

    https://images43.fotki.com/v1610/photos/9/954369/11457820/Aloealbida05-vi.jpg

    Randi Holbrook thanked Stefan
  • 7 years ago

    As macranthos said, a photo with better resolution will help. Since you own it, it should be possible to get a better photo.

    Randi Holbrook thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 7 years ago

    Are we even sure it is a succulent? Looks more like a form of albuca to me........

    Randi Holbrook thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago


    Sorry, forgot about this thread. Here's a better pic. Never would have thought aloe!

  • 7 years ago

    What about agave tenuifolia?

    Randi Holbrook thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Macranthos, you have an excellent point there! It also looks like a young specimen of that! I may never know what it is now! LOL. Thanks for the suggestions!


  • 7 years ago

    I was going to also put out there that it might be Calibanus hookerii, but one of the Agave family members is probably closer to the truth. Grass aloes are usually quite rare in nurseries/arboretums.


  • 7 years ago

    And grass aloes are glabrous.

  • 7 years ago

    I was going to say, grass aloe, how exciting, lol. But if they are quite rare, than I guess I'll keep it. (I was going to anyway--it kinda grows on me).

  • 7 years ago

    If it flowers then post a pic of the flower. That would help us nail down the ID.

    Randi Holbrook thanked Polypompholyx
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Grass aloes are quite nice and can be quite a bit hardier than the non-deciduous types. I’ve had them survive 10F here. They just don’t like simultaneous cold and wet terribly much.

  • 7 years ago

    Oh, I certainly will! It would be very nice if it bloomed. I will be keeping it indoors, by the way.

  • 7 years ago

    It will not do well indoors.

  • 7 years ago

    I guess that means it'll go into my HOT, and I mean SCORCHING hot desert garden. Even in shade, my semps are suffering. Don't know how it will take to that.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    once again harris.. you try to discredit me, without any actual proof. Calibanus hookerii, is a caudiciform from mexico, a close relative of the popular beaucarnea recurvata. It lacks the apparent bulb structure this plant has, and instead, has a persistent, woody, often fracturing caudex. It is also incredibly rare. In addition, none of the members of the agave and nolina families(dasilirion, true nolina, agave, manfreda etc), have a thick bulbous base near the root, noticeable at a young age and size.

    Also, no pointy spikes on leaf ends for agave ID. All have them, even tenuifolia

    Randi Holbrook thanked Stefan
  • 7 years ago

    Stefan, please note AGAIN that a difference of opinion is not the same thing as discrediting. We can have opposing points of view.


    Also, Calibanus hookeri is not incredibly rare here in the Southwest. Perhaps it is where you are and other places, but not here.


    As to not having a thick bulbous base, I'm guessing you haven't seen many Nolina. Many of them have exactly that.

    Randi Holbrook thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Nolina is not beaucarnea. Beaucarnea is the caudiciform...and its still woody, not bulbous...

    Nolina is the beaucarnea foliage, without the wood bits...

    this nolina bigelovihttps://cabezaprieta.org/images/rutman/NolinaBigelovii_CabPrietas_jan05g.jpg

    this is beaucarne

    Young

    https://www.plantopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/beaucarnea-recurvata-n5.jpg

    Old

    And blame the sideways bit on houzz.

    Randi Holbrook thanked Stefan
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Randi,

    Grass aloes are generally found, if at all then, in specialty nurseries. IIRC, their regeneration in habitat is aided by fire. Pyrophyticism seems to be a quality many grass aloes share. I don't know where you grow, but yes, most Semps don't take kindly to extreme heat and most also need cold to do well. Not all of them, though.


    Randi Holbrook thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 7 years ago

    Agave would be well suited to the high desert in SoCal. However, since we aren’t certain of the ID and it’s still the middle of summer with blasting temps outside, now would not be the best time to simply plop it in the ground. Keep it outside in some shade (especially from the afternoon sun) as much as you can before bringing it in for the winter. A “sunny window” is usually about 1/10th as bright as a plant needs. Flowers would really help confirm any ID and lots of sun will be needed to force them.

    Randi Holbrook thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Here's a pic up close of the caudiciform, if that's what it is.



  • 7 years ago

    FYI, that’s called the Caudex. A caudiciform is a plant that grows a swollen caudex.

    Randi Holbrook thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Well, that was quite the discussion!! I hope it blooms so I can, someday, discover what it actually is! And I will find it a shady spot until I bring it in later for the winter. Thanks all for the lively input!

  • 7 years ago

    Looks like an onion to me.

  • 7 years ago

    I have grown onions, as well as chives. Onions bulb like that. Their stalks are grasslike, but grow thicker and hollow over time.

  • 7 years ago

    I’m pretty sure that’s not an onion. You could rub the foliage and decide pretty quick with your nose, tho.

    Randi Holbrook thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Well, just rubbed the foliage, and guess what? Not an onion!

  • 7 years ago

    Then it reeks not of garlick nor leek?


  • 7 years ago

    Nope, lol. No odor at all. And the plot thickens . . .

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