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Orange-Green "Stonecrop" ID?

6 years ago

This plant belongs to a member of a horticulture club of which I am also a member. The owner says it is some kind of stonecrop (sedum). I take it that it is stressed to show its fall colors.


It is a winter hardy plant and can be grown outdoor all year long in Zone 5.


Does anyone know the real ID? Many thanks!






Comments (27)

  • 6 years ago

    I’ll dig out my Sedum book when I get home. I’ve got this plant, or something very much like it (thinking it’s near S. spathulifolium) PIG’d, where it does very well in Zone 4.

    Charline X thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks a lot for the ID.


    When you get a moment, I'd love to see a photo of your plant!


    I have been promised a division of the plant next month. :)


  • 6 years ago

    I believe it is Sedum pachyclados (Rhodiola pachyclados).

    Charline X thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks Gardengal! That's another interesting option to consider.

  • 6 years ago

    i know nothing about IDg these things... just wanted to mention.. that some might call that pink... rather than orange ...


    it could be a camera pic.. or indoor lights.. etc ... but when you try a search engine.. make sure you think about the descriptive terms you are using ... if you are failing ...


    ken

    Charline X thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • Charline X thanked carol23_gw
  • 6 years ago

    Ken, you are right. Coral pink is a better description of its colors.


    Carol, thanks for the link. It sure looks like it!

  • 6 years ago

    I know this has been finalized, but just one more thing to consider... could this be Rosularia platyphylla?

    Charline X thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    Macranthos, that was the first thing that came to my mind.

    Charline X thanked Chris (6a in MA)
  • 6 years ago

    I was thinking Rosularia too, but something about the woody stems make me think otherwise. But I don’t really grow those type of plants so I could be wrong:).

    Charline X thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I saw my friend today. The plant is Hylotelephium telephioides (Appalachian Stonecrop), a.k.a. cliff stonecrop.


    :)

  • 6 years ago

    Being a bit dubious, I looked at images. Your plant really doesn't look at all like Hylotelephium telephiodes.

    Charline X thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 6 years ago

    ^^ Agree. That is a much upright and even leggy plant that does not really form a dense mound of rosettes.

    And I have no other suggestion other than my original..........but would not argue against the Rosularia either, simply because I am not familiar enough with it and it looks quite similar in appearance and size.

    Charline X thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    No way that’s Hylotelephium telephioids;). Have you ever seen the flowers? This id is going to drive me bonkers.

    Charline X thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I was looking at this plant:

    http://woodthrushnatives.com/live-plants-hr/hylotelephium-telephioides-appalachian-stonecrop

    My friend is a very experienced and accomplished horticulturist. He is one of the best bonsai masters in the bonsai world. He is able to grow plants in his preferred forms and shapes. Perhaps it explains why the plant in the photo was not as leggy as the plant in the wild? I cannot say if he is right or wrong, but given his meticulous nature and knowledge, he just does not seem to be the kind of person who will tell me the name if he is not sure.

  • 6 years ago

    Just for starters look at the leaf shape. Yours has smooth margins. H telephiodes has toothed margins.

    Charline X thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 6 years ago

    Floral, that's a good point! I will do more research on it.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    To add to what floral_uk has said about Hylotelephium telephiodes leaves, which more oblong. Your succulent’s leaves are spatulate and much smaller.

    I don’t doubt your friend is super smart and I’m not trying to be a jerk:). I’m just trying to explain the differences between your succulent and Hylotelephium telephiodes. They’re very different plants.

    Lastnight I stumbled across a Sedum that is pretty similar to your succulent, very close. It’s called Sedum glaucophyllum which also has the common name cliff stonecrop. This Sedum is native to the Appalachian Mountians.

    All pics from Google images:
    Sedum glaucophyllum




    Hylotelephium telephiodes



    Charline X thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 6 years ago

    Kara, I think you are right, the plant is most likely Sedum glaucophyllum. My friend said that it is a Appalachian stonecrop.


    Thanks!


    I got another plant from a different source, they look similar. Will post a couple of photos to compare later.

  • 6 years ago



    The red one is the same as the orange-green plant in my original post. I am lucky to get a division from my friend. My friend always grows his plants to their ultimate beauty.


    The second photo below has a similar plant in green color, it was from a different source. I wonder if it's also Sedum glaucophyllum.


    Anyone knows the id from the purple one?




  • 6 years ago

    No, but perhaps it not recognizable because no human has ever seen it grown to the pinnacle of absolute beauty before?

    Charline X thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 6 years ago

    Hi Jay, are you kidding, right?

  • 6 years ago

    Yeah, I'm just joking, sorry. I did try to find a match for your purple sedum, but came up empty. Nice plants btw!

    Charline X thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 6 years ago

    Charline, I winter sowed seeds for Sedum glaucophullum last year, but they didn't germinate. I'm also trying to grow the similar, native Sedum pulchellum with pinkish flowers, widow's cross. I think the native Sedums are awesome. I've had ternatum for a few years now.

  • 6 years ago

    I have found out the name of the purple one - Purple Broadleaf Stonecrop, a.k.a. Sedum spathulifolium 'Purpureum'.


    Thanks again, everyone. :)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Kara, thanks for pointing out the potentials for me! :)

    I will try to grow them the best I can!


    By the way, the colors are real.