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Help with defficiencies

6 years ago

Hi, repotted my calamondin and Ponderosa in May. Calamondin lost lots of roots. In late July my Calamondin started losing some leaves and the leaves started yellowing. I assumed it was because I hurt the roots because I used good soil (Promix all purpose + worm castings and miracle grow all purpose granular feed).


I’m now wondering if I may have some defficiencies because I looked at the roots and they have recovered beautifully. I have a good watering schedule and used to water once in a while with foliage pro till early July. Since then I gave food 3-4 times with 0.2-0.2-2 kelp emultion. Any Idea whats going on with the Calamondin? The ponderosa seems tougher.






Ponderosa


Comments (11)

  • 6 years ago

    Congradulations your trees look just like mine except yours have fruits.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    From the leaf symptoms it looks to have a manganese deficiency. The symptoms of manganese deficiency are: Newest leaves with green veins WITH green boarders to the sides of the veins on otherwise yellow leaves. Leaves normal size. Manganese deficiencies are often caused by high pH rather than a shortage of the mineral.

  • 6 years ago

    alright, I gave some nutrients 30-15-30 with the micronutrients. With the nutrients, I added vinegar to lower the Ph of the soil. I checked the water ph here and its either high 7 or 8. hopefully its as simple as the soil Ph because I don't see where I would've developed the deficiency because I was fertilizing this summer.

  • 6 years ago

    I'll try vinegar too. Thanks.

    Citrus trees are notorious for developing nutrient problems

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    Kevin, 30-15-30, a 2-1-2 ratio fertilizer, certainly contains a LOT of phosphorous for a container citrus tree. Citrus uses higher levels of (the first number), and higher levels of potassium (the last number), but very little phosphorous. An excellent fertilizer for citrus has a 5-1-3 ratio like Jack's 25-5-15. Phosphorous does not easily wash out of the container and can build up. With your tree the manganese deficiency can be either the result of high pH or an actual shortage of the element Manganese.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Kevin, great info here. I am sure that if your problem is not due to poor root function due to root rot, your trees will perk up.

    If it's due to over fertilizing, I would pull back of the Kelp and make sure the mix is not caking up or blocking porous space because of the worm castings. I use to use those too and my trees would do the same thing. A good all balanced fertilizer in the ratios describe above is all that is needed. Using vinegar to lower the pH of your fertilizer solution can help grateful and will usually improve growth rapidly if the roots are functioning properly.

    Question. Did you exposed those trees to full hot all day sun? Did you have severe heat at all for an extended time?

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Jodi! I didn’t realize a high pH could cause a manganese deficiency.

  • 6 years ago

    Hi mike, sorry for the late reply. So our summers are not hot here. We are categorised as warm humid coastal climate summers and severely cold winters. The temperature got over 85F maybe once this summer without the humidex. I assume plants dont really care about the humidex but we had maybe 6 or 7 days over 90F.


    The area I put them in receives around 10-12 hours of sunlight a day. When I pulled the roots they looked healthy, white and coiled lightly around the pot just enough to keep the soil from falling.


    The soil did not feel compact yet, I only put a little worm castings in the soil, just for the rooting hormones and I added extra perlite to the mix If I recall.

  • 6 years ago

    The trees did gain colour after my first watering with the lower Ph water and nutrients. I gave another watering with diluted nutrients yesterday and lower ph after 10 days. Now I’ll hold off the nutrients for a while and see what she does. I’ll update with pictures.

  • 6 years ago

    Kevin, great! Then watering with a fertilizer lower pH solution should do the trick. Good work.

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