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Granddaughters Bathroom Tile Fail : ( Help anybody?

6 years ago

Hya Houzzers,

Well after seeing the end results of this bathroom tile for my granddaughters bathroom, tears starting forming in my eyes. My tile guys handed me tissues and later contacted me telling me that they wld retile for free(labor of course). The one Sample tile of side walls and tub surround in showroom was the lightest variation but I had no ideal the box wld have such extreme variations with those dark grey streaks. I suggested to the design girl that they shld have at least 2 samples in showroom of the most extreme color variations in the box!
The floral glass tile accent wall was completely off color wise from online color! So much hot pink ! Ugh.. Anyway, store designer said she will help me figure out how to fix this. She suggests retiling back wall with something else but I’m thinking just retile the back wall with same tile as sides/tub.. FYI floor tile is same as sides tub tile..
Here’s pic of glass tile from web. I spliced all the tiles together and they coordinated beautifully I thought .. Errrr
But love the niche!

Comments (50)

  • 6 years ago

    You need a designer to guide you, Bobby. From what I'm understanding, you didn't see the pink tiles in person? That makes zero sense to me. Also, if you hire a tile person and are willing to let them tile a whole bath without seeing their work in progress, you need to trust they share your artistic vision. (They must be good guys though if they offer a crying homeowner tissues.) They need to be able to set the tiles in a harmonious pattern rather than randomly as they come out of the box. In any case, that patterned pink wall was not a good idea with the grey tiles. All three walls should be the same. Out of curiosity, what size is the tub?

  • 6 years ago

    Yeah go with that instinct and tile it the same as the surroundings. Than grab yourself some lovely peach towels and call it a day.

  • 6 years ago

    @tartanmeup no I didn’t see glass tiles in person, only online. And I shld know by now that’s a huge mistake! And my tile guys, who were trying to finish my job, picked it up because I wasn’t able to that day. Trust me, I usually put an eye on everything before installation but I dropped the ball that day. : ( bathtub is 6’ btw, so area is bout 7’ wide .. I’m thinking like you that I shld just tile over pink with same wall tile .. Also, the side wall tile showroom sample was mostly cream with very subtle light grey/beige veining. SUBTLE I swear..

  • 6 years ago

    @seregiel aww ty! I think that’s exactly what I will do . Still depressed but it taught me a lesson at least ..

  • 6 years ago

    Cream with light grey/beige veining? See, on my monitor, the tile looks white with grey veining. To be clear, your tile guys will remove the pink glass tile and replace it with the grey? Bad idea to "just tile over pink with same wall tile".

  • 6 years ago

    The sample tile in showroom was like what I have circled! I don’t understand why they wouldn’t tell you that the boxes have such extreme color tones.. Another lesson learned. Always ask!

  • 6 years ago

    Every tile has colour variation and it's often noted on the tile sample and always noted on the box. Some tiles have more variation than others. Some showroom staff are more thorough in guiding their clients than others. Here's an article that explains how tile colour variation is graded. What code is on your tile box?

  • 6 years ago

    This is her vanity ..

  • 6 years ago

    Tartanmeup ty! This has been such a learning experience. So that article you suggested after reading, my tile was definitely a V3 moderate variation. Had no idea and wish they wldve told me .
    I finally did learn that marble look tile should have lots of variations to look more natural and that’s why it is more expensive than the tile at big box stores with only a few variations which make it look fake..

  • 6 years ago
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    @Crystalgirl9369 Did these same folks tile the other bathroom that you shared here? The edge of the tile that meets the drywall looks unfinished. How do you plan on finishing that portion?

  • 6 years ago

    @ilikefriday yes! It’s same guys. And they are expert tile layers. But this bathroom is not finished yet. Still need drywall, paint, glass shower enclosure etc...

  • 6 years ago

    Still need drywall? Is there a reason it wasn't gutted?

  • 6 years ago
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    You’re lucky. You have to redo everything.Its all wrong. It’s a giant technical fail from the beginning design phase. It’s the wrong type of tub for a tub shower and will have water infiltration and water damage. You don’t use a drop in soaking tub for a tub shower. It all has to be removed and redesigned to use the correct products.

    Start over with a tub with an integral tile flange and a technically correct physical design. Before you choose eye bleed busy tiles.

  • 6 years ago

    Its a statement for sure. Realizing the result may not be as expected, I have to say I like it as is.


    Which is surprising because I am generally only comfortable with all shades of beige.



  • 6 years ago
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    I have to say, I’m kind of in agreement with @E M. The longer I look at it, the more it’s growing on me—especially since it’s for your granddaughters. I think it’s kind of cool! In fact, I might be inclined to remove the marble on the tub deck and bring the glass tile down for full effect. Maybe. ;)

  • 6 years ago

    bathtub is 6’ btw, so area is bout 7’ wide


    Dimensions are hard to gauge in pics for me. What size are the pink tiles, Bobby?

  • 6 years ago

    Assuming that the tile was installed as you had hoped, what color did you plan on painting the drywall?

  • 6 years ago

    I’d let it go for a little while, it may grow on you.

  • 6 years ago

    @Sammy & EM very sweet ty! My hubby didn’t Like it when I showed him the pictures but when he saw it in person he actually said it wasn’t bad at all. So he suggested I wait until everything was done and then maybe play around with the lighting as far as different types of bulbs because he said that could make a difference.. I wld use hot pink towels/rugs..

  • 6 years ago

    Glass won’t make that be waterproofed correctly. The tile flange has to go under the wall waterproofing for a shower. That can’t do that. The wall deck joint will leak. And the deck will hold water that will seep in at that joint and tub edge when the caulk ages out and fails. A proper shower is constructed like a roof. everything overlaps the flashing and the layers below. That funnels water into the walls. It’s a technical fail even before a design fail.

  • 6 years ago

    @ilikefriday as far as paint. A light satin blush ..

  • 6 years ago

    "@mackdolan Let me guess, you’re “straight” male ?..(eye bleed). Water damage Where? I am having all custom glass enclosures installed ..They placed tubs as close to corner as possible to faucet leaving the back and outside ledges the largest. .. I stood in tub and I’m rt under shower head . FYI I’m designing two of my bathrooms for little girls.. As girly as possible. : )"


    No need to bring someone's sexual orientation into this, Bobby. Someone is offering you technical advice about something you aren't an expert in. Being receptive to their advice might be a good idea. Bathrooms aren't inexpensive rooms to renovate and it's nice when we get it right the first time.

  • 6 years ago

    Person who said technical fail is very sadly right. Our favorite hotel initially had beautiful similar type tub and tile deck and ended up having to replace them all after several years. There is no drain for water that gets on the flat deck. Even though it appears calked or sealed, it isn’t waterproof. Water doesn’t just sit on the tile and evaporate. Diligent wiping probably helps somewhat, but doesn’t address the issue of seeping water over time.

  • 6 years ago

    Looks like a 5’ tub to me. And definitely not intended for an alcove installation as a tub shower. Yes, it will leak. This kind of tub should be centered on the space, and have a filler plus hand shower, not a shower head. Ask them to center that niche when they redo it. That would drive me crazy.

  • 6 years ago

    So much hot pink ! Ugh


    I wld use hot pink towels/rugs..


    Why introduce more hot pink if you don't like the tile?

  • 6 years ago

    @tartanmeup his eye bleed comment isn’t exactly something nice to say. I copied his comment and sent to my GC and he said everything was installed properly with water proofing etc.. Also where I’m living now, our tub marble surround ALWAYS has puddles of water after use in corners etc and is 15 yrs old with no issues ..
    And the fact that these bathrooms will be literally be used probably a hand full of times per month when granddaughter stays over so totally not worried..
    #foreverhome

  • 6 years ago

    That tub is intended for use as a soaking tub only. Not a tub shower. Leaks are inevitable.


    As for choosing a tile online without any physical samples? And designing something that will leak? That speaks for itself. It also speaks volumes about the tile setters. And the other bathrooms that are going to be at high risk of leaking.

  • 6 years ago

    @tartanmeup read comments please . As far as the pink towels.. geesh

  • 6 years ago

    @scottie mom.. Ty, well that would be easy to replace . Hand shower and placement of niche doesn’t bother me .. : )

  • 6 years ago

    @shivece well being that this won’t be used very much. I think I can handle wiping it down a few times a month ..

  • 6 years ago

    A drop-in tub like that automatically forms a low surround where water will collect because it has nowhere else to go! No drainage! Not splashproof. Water will seep into any opening it finds and cause damage wherever it goes. That tub is not meant to be inside a shower enclosure. It is not meant to be used as a shower basin unless the glass walls are installed on the tub rim itself. Whoever “designed” this bathroom is a novice.
    I am no pro, just an experienced homeowner. This needs to be taken back down to the studs. I would bet that the walls were not properly water- proofed for use as a shower, either. And may I add: NEVER order tile you have not seen in person.

  • 6 years ago

    That’s like saying that the hole in the roof is just fine because it only rains a couple oftimes a year in southern California and you can put a tarp on it when it does.


    It’s built incorrectly. That won’t be the only one. It never is. You join the legions of posters on here who have a cosmetic complaint only to find out that they have a structural one that’s far more critical.

  • 6 years ago

    @tartanmeup his eye bleed comment isn’t exactly something nice to say. I copied his comment and sent to my GC and he said everything was installed properly with water proofing etc..


    While eye bleed might not be a nice way to describe anything, taste is subjective and shouldn't be stereotyped according to sexual orientation. We're on the eve of 2020, for pete's sake.


    As for reading the comments, I do and did. I'm not a pro but this bathroom makes no sense on several levels for me.


    I copied his comment and sent to my GC and he said everything was installed properly with water proofing etc..


    Impressive that you got a quick reply on a Saturday morning. Did your GC explain what type of waterproofing was done?

  • 6 years ago

    What a lucky granddaughter!!!

  • 6 years ago

    I hope it grows on you. Whatever you decide, I have to say I love your niche. It is charming. I am sure your granddaughter will love it.

  • 6 years ago

    @Crystalgirl9369 Do you have the lighting picked out, yet? I’m seeing crystal...

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Why weren’t the tiles set in the pattern instead of randomly? Thats another red flag to go along with the incorrect tub and construction details.

  • 6 years ago

    @live_wire_oak I really can’t take advice from someone who doesn’t know the difference between a ZR1 and a ZL1 .. : ) haha.

  • 6 years ago

    @Sammy of course crystal! Duh.. lol And she picked out this faucet for her vanity .

  • 6 years ago

    @tartanmeup my GC is available via text always, like the whole world these days.. : )

  • 6 years ago

    wonderful vanity, faucet! I even love the pink tile. she's lucky you indulged her taste to such a degree, and she'll probably love it up. if you have to change something, I might remove the gray and replace with white, so the rest can shine...

  • 6 years ago
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    so the question is, 'what to do w/the pink tile?" Since it doesn't go at all w/the other tile, I say take it out and redo that wall the same tile that's on the other walls. simple, done.

    now, as for that bath tub, why go w/an oval w/slanted sides? standing inside of that and trying to shower gives you about 12" of actual space to place your feet!

    everyone else is right, you should have gone w/another type of tub not just for reasons mentioned above, but for comfort.

    Like these:


    if you couldn't find one long enough to fit that space, then you could have had a built-in built and tiled like they did here:


    see the end ledge w/the stuff on it? This way you're not getting a collection of water that sits and that you're forced to wipe up every single time someone showers in there. I hope for your sake that particular part is very well waterproofed.


    other types of tubs that would have worked.




    even this one, below, while not ideal because it is curved, is only at the soaking end part. since it's an overhead shower head, there prob won't be as much over spray that gets to the back.


    similar tub,,, but also has a rain head so water comes straight down and not at a angle




    But notice how all of the tile come down over the flange on all of these pictures. There are no crannies for water to sit.




  • 6 years ago

    @acm I remember the feeling I got when my mom let me choose my bedroom flooring back in the day. Bright red abstract print linoleum! Omg, it was horrible when I think back . But boy did I love my floor. Haha

  • 6 years ago

    @Beth H well it wld be easy enough to change out shower head to the extended rain shower . Ty.. I still have some years to go before shower is even used since she’s only 4 and bubble baths are her thing..
    With my luck she’ll probably want her whole bathroom redone in a gothic black design with skull tile haha . : (

  • 6 years ago

    Cute shower niche.

  • 6 years ago
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    Bobby, let me see if I can translate some of this technical information to help you see what people are saying about the tub not being waterproof. This type of tub, with an overlay deck that sits on top of the tiled box it sits in, is only waterproof as a tub bath and not for a shower because of the seams that are beyond the edges of the tub. Seams will leak if they are not waterproofed properly.

    In a regular alcove tub, there is a lip that goes up into the wall above the bathtub's top. The lip goes up a couple of inches and it is installed snug against the studs that make up the wall. Then the wallboard is mounted on the studs and overlaps this lip. The wall board might be water resistant drywall (green) if the bath is not going to be a shower. If the bath is also a shower, then there should be plastic on the studs with cement board wall board or there can also be cement board wall board without plastic if there is going to be waterproofing applied to the cement board front. That can be a painted on product like Redguard, or some sheet waterproofing like Kerdi or other brand membrane.

    Once that is installed properly to be waterproof, then tile can go on. The tile flange, that lip coming up from the tub, goes behind the wall board. The wallboard is installed in front of that flange and also is installed so that it is suspended above the tub surface by a 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch gap. This gap ensures that the wall board never touches water, since many wall boards like drywall or Durock cement board can wick the water up into the wallboard if it ever touches water, and get the wall behind the tile all wet. It is the nature of dry things to soak water up, even uphill, instead of just sitting in the water and getting soaked on the edge. When you install the tile, though, the tile does go down to right above the top of the tub, leaving that gap of air below the wall board. It is okay because the only thing water can touch there is tile and the steel, cast iron, or acrylic of the tiling flange. Nothing that soaks up water will be where the tile, wall board, and tub all meet.

    That is the problem with your installation. The tub sits over top of a tiled tub box. Now, if your contractor made that tiled box out of a waterproof material (not wood, drywall, or cement board unless it is waterproofed with something like Redguard or Kerdi), maybe where the box meets the vertical wall has waterproof products like Kerdi corners and Kerdi Band that can waterproof that seam between the wall and the box the tub sits on.




    People here are assuming that it is not properly waterproofed at all of the corners and edges because it is so rare to see it done properly. The surface of the box that the tub sits on should also have waterproofing under the tile, and so should the walls all the way up to above the shower head. Here is a video. Pretend that your tub box is where the shower pan is in this video.


    The really hard thing to waterproof is where the tub deck (steel, cast iron or acrylic) hits the box that it sits on. There is a gap where the bottom of the tub's top flat part meets the tub box.

    Water falling from a shower will go past the tub and land on the tiled tub box, and that seam between the two cannot just be caulked. Caulking is not meant to be in this kind of underwater scenario. That tub top sits over the tile, the edges between the tub top and the tile box cannot be water proofed like in the Kerdi video. It can only be caulked, and that caulk will fail. This tub is not meant to have a shower dropping significant water past that tub top. Splashes in a tub bath rarely go over that far, and you always mop them up when they do.

    Here, shower splashes will go into the space between the raised edge of the tub and the walls. It has nowhere to go, so will soak the tiled box's grout, which may stay damp and then mildew. If you dry the space between the tub edge and the walls after every use, and if good waterproofing is under that tub box tile, wall tile, and those three corners (6 ft, and two 3 ft lengths) where wall board and tub box meet (and we doubt waterproofing is even there), you might make it work. You have to mop up that area every time the shower is used. But your caulking between the tub and the tiled tub box is not going to stay waterproof for ever. Caulking eventually fails. Believe it or not, the tub is probably going to flex and make the caulk pull away.

    Your other option is to get a shower curtain like they have over a victorian footed tub that goes completely around the tub and hangs inside.

    On top of all of that, if there is not perfect waterproofing between the walls and the top of the tub box, water will soon be behind the tile and grout there at that seam and will drip down and mold and rot whatever the tub box is made of and the wall next to it and the wood that frames it and the ceiling of whatever is below it.

  • 6 years ago

    @Nancy in Mich Wow ty you so much for such a easy to understand explanation for a goofball like myself. Lol You remind me of my favorite teachers in school. Sweet, thorough, patient and most of all, nonjudgmental making me feel worse then I already do about the tile situation. : ( Even though my GC said it was waterproofed properly I actually like the idea of putting one of those shower curtains you suggested. I still have some years to go before she starts taking showers but when the time comes I’ll change out the shower head to a extended rain shower and install the curtain rod . In the meantime should I have them caulk the heck out of it with silicone gel?

  • 6 years ago

    Btw I still haven’t decided on grout color for the niche .. Suggestions please? I was thinking maybe the crystal clear that mimics surrounding colors..

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Bobby. I get the impression that you are no way a stupid person, you just need to hear the whole explanation and not just some jargon that does not mean anything to you. By the time I was done, I thought I might be getting a bit ridiculous, in length, and worried that you would never get through the whole thing! I am so glad you appreciated the effort!


    I like the middle shower curtain. It looks a lot like how the tile was supposed to be, if the guy laying it had known he was to make a picture with it! I agree that if there is a grout like you described, it would be a good choice for the niche picture.

    Crystalgirl9369 thanked Nancy in Mich