What are you trying to achieve? What are the needs of your family?

@bpath :

1) I am trying to utilize the first floor flex room as a guest bedroom. Currently all 4 bedrooms of this plan are in the upper level.

2) I am trying to move away the sink from the island but close enough to the cooker and get more counter space on that edge.

3) The rest is just rearranging the space for full bathroom, coat closet and mudroom bench.

If you eliminate the dinette, since there’s another dining area in the same space as well as the island, then besides getting the sink off the island you can move the island and, basically, the whole kitchen toward the back windows.

You are better off designing a house from scratch to fit you and your site rather than trying to fix someone else's mistake.

Another note: Straight walls, such as the back wall of the garage, are usually a more efficient use of space.. Creating angles requires more materials and work time.

1) Move sink to where the current pantry area so it is the same
side of stove and i get continuous counter space (The oven will be moved
to the left of stove) and more island space to use.

If you move the only sink to the other side of the range wall, it's going to be a hike from the fridge. NKBA recommends a max distance of 9' between appliances. You could put the clean-up sink and DW on the perimeter, and use a prep sink on the island. The prep sink would be smaller, but it would complete a more convenient triangle between the range and fridge, and allow you to prep facing the living area.

I left the corner pantry, but it could be changed to a reach-in pantry in line with the cabinet run.

Is this a home for cars or a home for people? Don’t build a house where most of the front facade is given over to garage doors.

I agree.

"I agree."

With which piece of advice robin0919? I just have to know...................

All that's happening on this floor is eating?

Could you maybe clarify your family's goals, i.e. not what you want to do with the plan, but who you are and how you use your house.

I see no improvement worth doing in your new plan I never like a pantry outside the main kitchen a sink and a fridge should be close together not the stove I see no reason for so many eating areas with some real design help you could have a great and functional kitchen I never undestand flex rooms they either have a purpose or they don’t get designed. The 2 stroey room in the basement was always a bad idea. All those different floors everywhere bad idea. You need some actual help before this gets worse instaed of better.

bpath suggested omitting the dinette and moving the island. If you reconfigure the island, you could have a dining area at one end. I also changed the pantry in the following version:

Neither bathroom location has an exterior window. What do you gain by moving the bathroom to that side? If you want an expanded bathroom you can do it in the original bathroom area. It will cost less to not move plumbing so far. And the new coat closet and pantry can be where you have the new bathroom. I wouldn't take out the original kitchen sink, ok to add another if you really want it. Moving an entire bathroom seems expensive and I do not personally see an advantage of the new location vs the old. Can you gain a window where the current pantry is? Ignore my comments if they do not work for you. :)

As an aside, do you have any plans for the master closet?

I think you’re trying to fix the wrong thing. You’re not replacing whomever is scribbling these “solutions” for you with an architect. That’s the problem that really needs resolving.

I applaud you for creating a full bathroom for the first floor guest bedroom! Well done! When we shopped for our first house, we planned for my elderly FIL to live with us. He lacked the muscle strength needed to climb stairs and his peripheral neuropathy, due to his diabetes placed him at a risk for falls. We looked at many houses and could not find anything close to our needs- first floor suite with walk-in shower bath. (Other home buyers have similar needs with family members who have acquired a physical disability, like disabled veterans)

The only negative I see on your proposed plan is the sink placement. As I do all of the cooking and clean-up, I prefer a sink in the island. I would not want to face a wall rinsing vegs, or plates. I'd like to be able to follow TV show/ sports game, not turn away from it an miss-out on the good parts. Otherwise, I might as well be in a closed kitchen- ugh!

Agree with above suggestion to remove dinette in favor of a bigger island (with sink) and with more seating and storage!

The other changes you've made were on my wish list- hidden walk-in pantry, coat and shoe closet with bench near from garage entry. Gosh! I really like all of your proposed changes, (except sink facing away from TV ;)

@bpath: Thanks for the design idea of the island. With regards to the master closet, there is a one attached to the master bedroom in the top floor: Floor Plan

@suezbell I am trying to actually move away from the two level gym plan (that starts at the basement level). Instead I want to use up the space for a first floor room.

Can you please explain more how to utilize the straight back wall of the garage to create sections - for pantry/coat closet etc?

@mama goose_gw zn6OH: Thanks for the updated diagram. I never thought of a secondary prep sink on the island and i am now seeing the logic of a NKBA design guideline for good work flow. I'm guessing what you have circled in blue is the main sink?

Jon, I saw that closet, and wonder if you are planning to do something about it. Hoping, I should say, that you will do something about it. It’s pretty wonky and inconvenient. You might also want to add a window to the left-hand wall of the master. And replace the double door with a single door.

Will the other bathrooms upstairs get windows?

Who gets Bedroom 4, with the stairs right outside the door? Yikes.

@A B @millworkman @robin0919

Yeah, unfortunately the development I hope to build in permits only front facing garages due to the limitations in width of the lot size and I want a 3 car garage ...

@lafdr : You raise a very good point about adding a window to the guest/main floor bathroom. This will need some rearranging of the shower etc.

The blue oval is m/l the clean-up zone, including the clean-up sink, DW, and space for dish storage. The final configuration would depend on what you do with the corner pantry.

@My House: Thanks. That is is the exact reason I am setting up a bedroom in the main floor - for my elderly family members when they visit. I will look into setting up a prep sink on the island as it will work well with the flow of the cooker & fridge.

Another idea, since without the dinette and corner pantry you have floor space to spare, would be a double island layout--one for prep and one for seating, with an escape route between. While it's not exactly the same, Cheryl Hewitt's double island kitchen comes to mind, if you are interested in comparing layouts. I omitted the corner pantry in this version, and switched the fridge and ovens.

There are a few other GW/Houzz kitchens with double islands (one very elegant white one--but the owner's name escapes me, maybe some one else will remember).

ETA, this isn't the white kitchen I was thinking about, but the layout is very similar to the plan I just posted.

"Yeah, unfortunately the development I hope to build in permits only
front facing garages due to the limitations in width of the lot size and
I want a 3 car garage ..." but is the lot deep enough for a detached garage at the rear of the house?

What is that blue stripe left of the bedroom over the blue two story part?

@new-beginning: The Lot size is 85'x110 and so HOA only allows front entry garages. Unfortunately no room for side entry or detached garage.

@suezbell : I should have cleared that out from my updated drawing. It is the remnant of the two story basement that I want to get away from.