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Question in regards to new home foundations

6 years ago

So I'm having a new track home built in the Houston / Atascocita area. The builder is telling me that they don't pack the soil under the slab. He also says it's normal in this area and no one else does it either. This seems really odd to me.


An engineer I work (industrial) with is telling me it's not ok but others are saying it's somewhat normal.


So what say you guys? Any help is appreciated.

Comments (9)

  • 6 years ago

    If your slab foundation is built like the one in our San Antonio house, there are large wide channels with rebar that are built like a grid around the house perimeter and under the house, and these serve as footings and cross beams. You need packed or undisturbed soil under those areas because they are footings. Local code should require inspection of the soil under the footings to ensure it is undisturbed.

    However, between these "beam" areas there is a lot of fill under the rest of the cement floor. I think it would be best if it was packed, but since that fill only supports the slab (5"-6" thick), and does not support the house framing, you may be able to get by with loose dirt in those areas. In our house it was also bagged with large sheets of plastic.

    Bruce


    Bruce

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    The terms you want are "tract" and "compact", The need for compaction depends on whether or not the slab is supported by the fill or its structural (spans between supports). It also depends on the kind of fill. Its possible that compaction is not necessary but its easier for you to tell us what the actual conditions are rather than for us to explain all the condition where compaction is not needed.

    For this location the foundation might be post-tensioned.

  • 6 years ago

    Is it an engineered slab? I don't know if that makes a difference. I remember when we bought a house south of Houstonwith potential cracked slab. Everyone said no big deal, in Houston it's not a matter of if your slab is cracked, but when it will crack. Got to love gumbo clay.


  • 6 years ago

    We've got clay in my part of Texas, too (Central), and most houses are built on slabs. Cracked slabs are normal.

    But just because something is normal doesn't mean it's smart. One of the ways I vetted architects was asking if they used other methods of foundation construction. One said he sent foundations to his engineer who did slabs only. I didn't select him (there were other reasons, but that was a big one).

    I'm currently in a tract home, with a slab foundation. I expect it to crack, because our soil moves so much. We have thick, heavy, black clay everywhere, and my foundation is nearly 3' tall/thick in a back corner. The upside is, when I go to sell, almost all other houses have the same problem, so realtors/buyers won't consider it an issue.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    If you have concerns, contact a geotechnical (soils) engineer for testing of the soil. That assumes the contractor that owns the site will agree. If not...

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Apparently he got an answer.

  • 6 years ago

    3 month old post

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Amazing how often this term is used...