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Design help - how much green tile is too much green tile?

6 years ago

I'm designing a small bathroom (6'x7'). I'm not an architect. I've been quite taken by all the pictures of heavily tiled bathrooms on the Heath tile instagram (https://www.instagram.com/tilemakestheroom/). But now that I've got it rendered in SketchUp I'm starting to wonder if this is way too much green tile. I'd love to hear what others think. Will this be claustrophobic, or awesome? (Note that the wall with the door into the bathroom is missing in this image. It's flush with the vanity.) The tile is Heath 3"x6" field tile in 50/50 Fog (https://www.heathceramics.com/products/g10-2-50-50-fog-ceramic-tile). Ceiling and non-tiled walls would be a warm white color. Details aren't 100% certain yet: we might do a floating vanity instead, maybe a floating toilet, maybe move the shower head to the opposite side... etc.


Thanks in advance!







Comments (35)

  • 6 years ago

    It’ll be awesome, trust yourself

  • 6 years ago

    If you like green ...do what you like ! I personally hated my green tiles ..but if it's not overdone ..probably everyone could like it ...and it could even be awesome! It's YOU who should love it although an eye on resale if you ever want to sell it is a good idea ..

  • 6 years ago

    Is that a window in the shower or a tiled mural?

  • PRO
    6 years ago
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    IMO that is a lot of grout lines and I do not like ceramic tiles in most cases they chip and then the white shows but I also think if you love it do it . I have never done my house for the guy that buys it later how boring would that be.I think if I was going that route I would use glass tile just in my mind seems better.


  • 6 years ago

    I love the tile you chose. There are a few things I would do differently though. I would use larger size tile (picture attached is 4x16), make the window smaller, eliminate the niches, and keep the walls light. This bathroom is 5x8




  • 6 years ago

    I love pale green tiles. I am worried that with three niches, a wall mural? and small window over the sink, you have HUGE potential for small slivers of tile showing up everywhere. Make sure you hire a tile MASTER, who is very focused on laying that out perfectly.

  • 6 years ago

    It would depend upon the green color of the tile....a light or medium green would be less dominant than a darker green. The shower head location is good as shown. I have never liked a rain head, but if you do, just have it on a diverter so you can use one or the other as desired.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I love green and see the appeal. I think if you choose a grout color close to the color of the tiles, it won't be overwhelming. A light grout will make it look busy.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks everyone for your input! This is super helpful.


    For those asking, that's a window, not a tiled mural. This will be in Joshua Tree, with a view of the desert. That image in the window was just some background thing I found in the SketchUp 3D Warehouse that kind of resembles the view. But it doesn't really. The actual view is more like this (but without the fence, which we'll be removing).



    I made the window big because my husband really wants to be able to sit in the tub and look at the view. We haven't figured out how to solve the privacy issue though. We also want to try to get as much natural light in there as possible, and we can't really do skylights in this room (as much as I'd like to).


    That's a good point about the potential for lots of small slivers. We'll definitely make sure to hammer out those details. Fortunately with the vertical stacked layout of 2x6 tiles, it means the horizontal layout goes in 2" increments (the 2" dimension apparently includes the grout line) so hopefully we can get the windows and tub and everything placed to minimize tile slivers.


    The reason for the 2"x6" tile size is because that's the only size Heath does for their "in-stock" palette / pricing. $20/sf available now, rather than $30/sf available in 3-4 months. Also I prefer the smaller tiles. You can see a lot of examples of the look I'm trying to emulate in the Heath instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tilemakestheroom/


    I'm not worried about resale value as we're hoping to keep this place long term. I mostly just am concerned about the feel of the room. I want it to reflect the tranquility of the desert, and I don't want it to feel dark or claustrophobic.

  • 6 years ago

    Unfortunately we can't order multiple shades of green, unless we want to spend a lot more money and have a lot more lead time. That said, Heath's 50/50 Fog is a variation level 3 tile (on a scale of 1-5), which means it's got a decent amount of variety just within the one glaze. The rendering of the tile is the best we could do with the images we have, but in real life the tile will probably be more varied. Here's a picture they have on their website (though some of it is behind glass, so perhaps not a perfect representation) https://www.heathceramics.com/collections/in-stock-palette


  • 6 years ago

    Looks to me like it will be fabulous,not too much tile at all. In fact, I would probably tile the front of the tub and float the vanity, thereby adding more tile!

  • 6 years ago

    Gardner Architects: The glass has a split finish: clear and sandblasted. These are custom pieces of glass fabricated by a local glass fabricator. The windows are double-glazed with argon.?? The window is detailed to the inside as if it were an exterior condition -- hard to explain in words, the detail bears some resemblance to this: http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/qa/waterproofing-a-window-in-a-tiled-shower.aspx. The window is glazed from the interior so that the glass can be removed should it ever need to be replaced. The material of the jamb, head, and sill is ipe, and is finished with Penofin interior hardwood forumula: http://www.penofin.com/products_hardwood_interior.shtml 


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    [Mikado series by Emil America. It is the Bambu finish, 6x36, porcelain. http://www.floorssupplies.com/ergon-tile-mikado-12-x-24-rectified-bambu.html.]

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  • 6 years ago
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    Griffin Enright Architects: the glass is etched, but this effect can be achieved with film too.

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    https://www.houzz.com/photos/griffin-enright-architects-hollywood-hills-residence-modern-bathroom-los-angeles-phvw-vp~591803

  • 6 years ago

    I will say this ,if you love the colour then put as many as you want! It"s your house and if people don"t like they can stuff it!

  • 6 years ago
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    Worry more about that window in the shower than the amount of green. Windows are meant to keep water out, from the outside, not the inside of the house.

    That’s going to need to be tempered glass. And it will still be dangerous, even then. One slip, and that will be a how fast can you get to the ER with a thousand cuts. Tempered glass can still cut you.

    And the window is going to need to be fiberglass or vinyl. No wood. No clad wood. Nothing that has the potential for rot.

    Then it’s going to have to be correctly integrated into a complete waterproofing system over the cement board, and under the tile. Because the glass will be right in the spray path, you’ll likely want an internal shower curtain so that you don’t deal with a gross soap spotted glass needing cleaning every single day that the shower is used.

    You need the best quality construction professionals that you can find for this to not be a 12K waste that needs redoing within 2 years time.

    https://www.ceramictilefoundation.org/homeowners-guide-to-hiring-qualified-tile-installer

  • 6 years ago
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    Instead of a shower curtain to shield the window, you can commit to squeegee after each shower. It will also help the tile and takes seconds.


    I love your choice of tile. Using it vertically suggests a bamboo forest to me. I agree that your mock-up on SketchUp looks great.

  • 6 years ago

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  • 6 years ago

    For your window: https://www.contravision.com/applications/glass-enhancement/one-way-window-privacy/


    Or, you can get windows that change the opacity electronically. https://innovativeglasscorp.com/

    Heather thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    Saw your great renderings this morning and thought about this image I have seen around Pinterest and such. You had specifically asked where to stop the tile, and this might give you some ideas.


    I really like the vertical stack and just one row over the vanity might be enough. The contrast with the cream or white walls and the dark tile is very nice.


  • 6 years ago

    You have a beautiful view ....but rethink some sort of the fence around your house ...you could make a fence perhaps more beautiful as you should protect , yourself , house pets and children form the wildlife in your area ..besides the mule deer , Bobcats , coyotes , gray fox ...you have the occasional black bear and a whole variety or other critters ...you might want to shield against ...and then there is that hairy scorpion ...which is not really deadly unless you are allergic .., so please rethink the fence ...., your bathroom and house I am sure will be beautiful ....good luck !

  • 6 years ago

    If you are not worried about reselling then just do what you like , if you like green go green ! You have a good eye in yr design , I think it will be lovely ..I would do a light sea green ...and
    " rethink " that or a kind of fence ....I agree with skunst on your area .....! You can use local low maintenance shrubs and trees that thrive in your area to hide an ugly fence ...have some wood ...look at HOUZZ ...fences can be natural and beautiful without ruining the view ...

  • 6 years ago

    I love green so I think it’s fabulous. If you can get larger tiles - meaning less grout to deal with - that would be good but it’s fine as is. And absolutely do samples of different grout colors before installation so you’re sure.
    The vertical layout is a great idea. I’d heed the warnings about privacy and having such a large window in a shower (for safety reasons). Keep us posted as I think this bathroom will be amazing.

    Heather thanked RedRyder
  • 6 years ago

    It will look fabulous but i do agree to think twice about such a large window in the bath

  • 6 years ago

    I happen to like green, but that aside some of my favorite bathrooms have a lot of the same colored tile on all the walls, in some cases mosaic tile and they always look spectacular. Requires a master craftsman to do the job right or errors will shout at you.

  • 6 years ago

    Go for it. It will look fabulous. Especially the way it will frame your view. Though figure out the privacy issue before you go to far. This photo is more traditional than yours would look like but still gives you an idea that the tile isn't too much. And if you go with a wood vanity you'll have another color element in the room.

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  • 6 years ago

    I love your selection - go for it! We have a window in our shower and it has been years, with zero rot issues. We simply do a quick wipe of the frame and move on. I find it amusing that people get so worried about moisture on the inside of a window when they don’t worry a bit about moisture on the outside.

    Also: is that your view from your bathroom? If so, I am wondering what your privacy concern is? Seems like the closest prying eyes are miles away. If you can’t see into your neighbor’s bathroom, it is likely that they cannot see into yours.

  • 6 years ago

    Have you considered a white vanity? simpler palette with white toilet sink there.

  • 6 years ago

    Wow, everyone, thanks for all the awesome feedback! Ok, I've got a new rendering, this one with a smaller window mounted higher up. My husband decided he could let go of the idea of looking out the window while lying in the tub. Privacy is definitely a concern. The neighbors definitely can't see in from their house, and the chances of someone walking by and looking in are *very* slim, but I would personally feel weird being naked in front of that window because it is wide out and in the open. We only have 2.5 acres, and there is a neighbor and a road.


    Other changes: I made the vanity floating and with a lighter wood (maple), and I made the toilet wall-mounted to get a little extra space. Best part is I added a skylight. I think this makes a MASSIVE difference in the feel of the place. I love it. Fingers crossed it wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.









    As for your other feedback... We'll make sure that whatever we do with the window will be appropriate for wet spaces. And fences -- we're not worried about animals. In fact we specifically don't want a fence that keeps animals out. We bought this house specifically because it's in the wide open desert, so the last thing we want to do is build a tall fence or plant trees or shrubs! Even if we did build a fence there's not much we could do to keep scorpions out, and my kid has seen a coyote jump an 8' fence -- in San Francisco -- so I know a fence isn't going to stop them. The wildlife we see at this house is mainly coyotes and jackrabbits, with the occasional roadrunner, mourning dove, owl, desert iguana, or kestrel. And lots of ravens. I know the foxes and bobcats are around but I haven't seen them. Never heard of mule deers, wolves, or black bears in the area; are you sure you're thinking of the Mojave desert, skunst2017?

  • 6 years ago

    The skylight is a great way to add light without sacrificing privacy. (We live on a 50 acre farm and we don’t have many window treatments. There are blinds in bedrooms to create sleep friendly darkness and blinds on bathroom windows, but we rarely lower them.) Your bathroom rendering looks great with the floating maple vanity.

  • 6 years ago

    This caught my eye due to the green tile which I thought was similar in color of yours.


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  • 6 years ago

    That's awesome, thanks tedbixby!


    I've changed around the design a bit after putting it in VR and interacting with it. In VR the green felt very overwhelming and dark. I moved the showerhead to the opposite side and replaced the long wall with the vanity and (now) showerhead with white tile that coordinates with the green tile. I think it looks really nice.







    Thanks again for your feedback, everyone!