That photo is offensively good.

I wish people thought weeds were pretty, I’d have the best landscaping In town

You are SO funny, jc!!! : )) Darren, this is a beautiful rose, but in my mind, it just goes to show that we here in the States do not have a monopoly on bad names. That just sounds so pedestrian for such a lush and romantic looking rose. I'm off to HMF to look it up!

I have not heard of Rose Proper Job until now, I see why you are tempted Darren. What great form and color, that is no ordinary red rose.

Do I remember right that you bought Florentina for your arbor ? If Rosa Proper Job has good fragrance, it looks to be as ravishing as a red rose could ever be. The leaves look pretty too.

It makes me sad that we can't get these Tantau roses. : ((

It's a good thing Tantau roses are outside my reach.

Darren, did you see Britishroses online states Rosa Proper Job has excellent perfume too. Sorry Vaporvac that I had to report it. We can suffer together.

What a fabulous rose!! I those Tantau roses

Well, my lovely friends - after reading your comments, I have decided to order one in honour of those that can’t get one. I shall grow it for you and post lots of photos So I can share with you. I’d send you one in the mail but unfortunately that wouldn’t be allowed :/

I’ll keep You posted.

and yesss I did plant Florentina a few weeks back. I love red roses and oddly enough only had Mr Lincoln in my rose garden. I’ve changed that though this year :) x

Ps - Agreed.... horrendous name “Proper Job” haha. Just bloody awful haha

It's other name "Gospel" is much more appealing, to be honest the name Proper Job has put me off buying it. But now that you've taken the plunge on our behalf I can wait till next season to see if it's worth my time thanks Darren! lol

There can never be enough good red roses in the garden after all...

Oddly Tantau, who introduced this rose ('TANlepsog') and use the Gospel registered trademark when promoting it have 3 different entries that come up when searching their web site for "gospel". 2 that appear to be talking about the red rose and a third that shows yellow flowers, mentions cut flower production in South America. With none of these 3 portrayals using cultivar names, including 'TANlepsog'.

Perhaps Proper Job was something that was come up with specifically for sales of 'TANlepsog' to the British market.

. I think that's correct. They seem to use another name in Australia.

beautiful Darren! I want to see all your pictures of it so please do buy it :).

Does ’Proper Job’ have any meaning in Britain besides the obvious? Seems such a strange name for a rose. I wish to rename Benjamin Britten to ‘Awful Job’.

It arrived !!!

WOW such informative info from you guys. Thank you so much!!!!!!

“Does ’Proper Job’ have any meaning in Britain besides the obvious? Seems such a strange name for a rose. I wish to rename Benjamin Britten to ‘Awful Job’.“

No it doesn’t. Haha.

Benjamin Britten flowers beautifully in my garden.

TANlepsog is 'Gospel NAT' spelled backwards, if nobody has pointed it out.

Now that you explained it Marlorena, I rather like both names, and the rose appears well suited to it.

The TAN in the cultivar name is presumably derived from Tantau.

I like the explanation, although I always thought the expression was wide spread and still in use. I guess it's been a while!

It bothered me for days that I could not remember what rose is similar. Finally it dawned on me; David Austins " The Prince". For anyone in the US that feels deprived of Rosa Proper Job,, The Prince might be of comfort.

Darren, I am a sucker for those deep reds. If that rose was available here I would be first in line to buy one regardless of its name

I hope that you get one and share lots of pictures

Beautiful rose. I am a sucker for these types of roses as well. I agree the name is a bit weird and it does not reflect the rose's beauty.

I've grown The Prince for many years, and for me, that rose is much darker than Gospel. Also, it's being (or has been) discontinued by Austin. Tantau has other odd named roses (going to check my catalog on that). I think naming rights have been purchased to certain roses. Other names seem to be that of charities. Peter Beales has done some of that kind of naming, I believe. (Savoy Hotel?). Diane

The Prince

...a better named rose sold here for us is 'Pure Poetry', which is called 'Johann Wolfgang von Goethe' in the catalogue... it has huge crimson or deep pink blooms with some purple as I recall, sweetly scented... I'm not sure which of these roses I would prefer..

I agree that Pure Poetry is a great improvement in the naming of that rose. I like what I've seen of it in photos. Diane

Old thread, I know, but we bought a pair of Gospel standard roses a few weeks back here in Italy and I’m absolutely besotted. I can’t believe this rose isn’t far more well known than it is, because it’s rapidly made its way to among my absolute favourites. These are some pics I took early this morning so the light is a little deceiving. It’s actually almost the same colour as my Red Edens, albeit perhaps just slightly more purple. I’ve just ordered a couple of bushes to plant here opposite my red Edens because they look wonderful together..

Here’s another pic I’ve just taken in better light…