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Pruning Rose Question

I have a shrub rose - Prairie Sunrise - I pruned it already. I cut off a couple of dead canes, then I trimmed back canes that already had some leaf buds on the top of them. I ended up with just 3 canes that I left about 3 ft tall. There seems to be very few leaf buds on the canes. I'm wondering if I should have cut all the canes very low to the ground instead. And if I do it now, is that going to stunt the growth for this year?

Comments (12)

  • 6 years ago

    I would stick with what you have, and more buds should come out if the canes are alive. If you cut it to the ground it will slow it down for sure.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, I'll leave it alone and let it figure itself out. I just wanted to make sure that the option of cutting back to the ground was not a better one. But - the next time - would I have been better off to have pruned lower than 3 ft, when there was only about 2 leaf buds basically at the 3ft point on the cane?

  • 6 years ago

    Prairie Sunrise sounds like a good one. I almost purchased one about 20 years ago, based on one of Sam Kedem's pithy reviews. The redoubtable rose reviewer Michael Garhart, from HMF, said of it (back in 2014): "It is essentially a floribunda classed as a shrub, and I would say is the "best apricot floribunda" I have ever seen"

    I have a very old KO I cut back to 3 inches from the ground every late winter, before I see any buds. It does fine, getting to 3 1/2 - 4 feet tall each year. It does have many more than 3 canes remaining after pruning. Consider experimenting next year with your Prairie Sunrise, prairie moon.


    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 6 years ago

    Yes. Considerably lower.


    I left out what Michael G Said about Prairie sunrises’ fragrance:


    And the fragrance. Strong. But not painfully so.


    At least that is what I remember him saying.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I don't remember what went into my decision on PS - I know I used the site HelpMEFind dot com. But those are mostly home owner and individual gardeners who review. Glad to know that professional reviewers also think a lot of the rose. Oh, I know, I bought it from Pickering when they were still in business and spent a lot of time evaluating their catalog looking for something that fit my criteria.

    I don't have a place in full sun for this rose, because I only have one full sun bed that is only 20x15ft on the whole property and everything that takes full sun has to go there. Since PS does so well in less than full sun, that's where she landed. Last year I added 3 more trials of roses to the one full sun bed, after a redesign and removing more perennials.

    I will try cutting it much lower next year, I think it's possible I have fewer canes due to the lack of full sun, no matter how I prune it, but...I'd love to be wrong. Thank you!

  • 6 years ago

    Looking forward to this rose and also the other three you added.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    This rose filled in pretty well, despite the pruning mis- steps. I found the new growth to be very healthy and I'm enjoying this rose so much this season, that I'm going to give it more attention next spring. It's too close to the Itea behind it and I'm going to either cut that back or pull the rose out further in the bed and give it more room.

    The Itea does spread and sucker and this season it is growing like it's on steroids. [g]. Really full.



    You can see it is getting swallowed up by the Itea. You can see the healthy new growth - but there are some bare legs below since it was pruned a little high. Next year. It's a lovely rose and very fragrant, a lot of petals.



  • 6 years ago

    Itea: I have seen this on and off for years, and never tried to find out its name. Now I know. Thank you.


    Concerning crowding: remember to keep priorities straight. The itea must yield!

  • 6 years ago

    Definitely, rifls, if anything is going to yield, it's got to be the Itea! ;-).

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Vaporvac - These are photos of Pope John Paul - this spring. It was the first rose to open in my garden, although roses are late by a week or two here. I'm enjoying this rose. It is very fragrant. The blooms are very large in comparison to Julia Child which are small blooms. If you cut a bloom and bring it into the house, they last a long time in a vase. They open slowly on the bush, which seems to cause the outer petals to look older before the bloom has even finished opening. That seems to be it's only flaw that I can tell, which I can live with. Even if you remove the outer petals, it's still a gorgeous bloom with a lot of petals. I was thinking today, it might be that I will enjoy it more if I cut the blooms soon after they start to open and enjoy most of them in the house. I suppose that would encourage it to push out more blooms as well? The shrub itself has clean foliage at this point, with a few minor bug damage to a few of the leaves.




    I haven't gotten photos of Beverly or Savannah yet. Savannah had some issue with disease at the end of the season last year, and got off to a rocky start this year. But I cut it all back close to the ground and it pushed up a lot of healthy canes that have buds on them. Opening later than the others.

    I'll come back and post photos of those two soon.

  • 6 years ago

    That is great information. If you have time you should post it to HMF. I love reading those types of observations in addition to pretty pictures as it helps planning. I would consider PJP!! for a cutting garden.