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Unopen rose buds found on the ground

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Why did some unopened buds on my established roses just fall off like being cut?

This morning, quite a few unopened buds that had been on my rose bushes were gone, like have been cut. I have found them on the ground near the roses.

What creature could of chopped off unopen buds so cleanly?

Please help me identify this bud chopper!

Comments (23)

  • 6 years ago

    I've been told probably rabbits. I hate this destruction when the creature does not even eat the pillaged part.

    paola_b thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago

    Are the bases cut off at a 45 degree angle or straight across? If it's at a 45 degree angle, it is absolutely due to a rodent as their gnawing teeth meet at a 45 degree angle. That includes mice, rats, squirrels, rabbits. If it's straight across, that is something else, like a cow, horse, deer, etc.

    paola_b thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Kim,

    I would say it's a straight across cut, but will double check if new buds appear on the ground tomorrow morning.

    My flower bed is about 2.5 ft. Versigny, Lady H and Quietness that were affected are about 2.5 ft tall as well. How that rodent could of possibly reach buds on a very top of those roses...

    I also have a six ft fence around the property, several traps for rodents... Definetely, no deers or horses in our community, cows too.

    Scary...



  • 6 years ago

    Do you see any black liquid indicating katy did or grasshoppers?


    paola_b thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    I had that problem and it was rabbits. Spraying solved the issue.

    paola_b thanked Nadya
  • 6 years ago

    What did you spray with?

  • 6 years ago

    Straight across cut.

  • 6 years ago

    Is it possible they are dropping off by themselves, like June drop in apples?

    paola_b thanked Genevre
  • 6 years ago

    This problem cropped-up many years ago now. It turned out to be a 2-legged varment with a clipper just being mean.

    paola_b thanked CA Kate z9
  • 6 years ago

    I have rabbits, ground squirrels and roof rats, and all the buds and flowers I've seen on the ground have been cut at 45 degree angles.

    paola_b thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 6 years ago

    Paola , can I ask a weird question.. do you have a tinge of red / orange on those buds ? And upon closer inspection, can you easily knock them off yourself on buds that do have that color ? I had a problem with my rose that the buds were dropping . Let me find my post .

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5890873/does-anyone-know-whats-going-on-with-my-rose


    Maybe you habe the same thing? Only one of my roses did this and is setting new buds and finally opening so I think it passed .

    paola_b thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
  • 6 years ago

    Lily,


    I am going to check ... Your post was very helpful. I do have all kind of issues with nutrients in the soil and in all my garden beds. After years of hesitation (afterall we are in CA), I am slowly starting to move towards growing roses in pots.

    Thank you so much.

    Be well and enjoy the weather-:)

  • 6 years ago

    Just checked and the mistery continues. Here are some pics of my Versigny with a hanging bud, a new one since this morning. Although there is a bit of redness in the stems, I don't follow the connection. Couldn't see any bugs there either.






  • 6 years ago

    One more pic.


  • 6 years ago

    Hmmm. Well mine were not staying connected to the plant , they were falling clean off at the base where the leaves were , just where yours were . I’m not sure exactly either but it looks like the same problem or very close . I don’t think it’s animal :( I don’t know where the redness comes from but it’s something I noticed in the buds that would fall . It’s quite the mystery!!

    paola_b thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Oh yes! If you can touch them and knock them off......I had that problem with my Perle d’Or in its first season and it also had leaves with reversed chlorosis. Instead of light leaves with darker veins it was veins whitening first. Also many of my other roses, especially those with Multiflora heritage, had signs of chlorosis. I tired supplementary iron, magnesium, calcium, silica and giving balanced Miracle Grow fertilizer, but nothing changed this problem. Finally I had a soil test done. I had plenty of everything except very low Nitrogen (which I already knew) AND zero detectable Manganese. Once I supplemented all my roses with manganese sulfate last fall and this spring they have had zero chlorosis. I also continue to give liquid fertilizer but I switched from Miracle Grow to Sea Grow by Grow More. Both have the trace elements, not just NPK. Although I am not sure why the Manganese supplied in those two fertilizers wasn’t enough in my soil. Anyway you might not have the same deficiency as my soil, but start with a balanced liquid fertilizer with trace minerals and see if that helps. Probably won’t help this flush, but the next one. This is assuming the buds are dropping on their own.

    paola_b thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    Looks to me like those breaks might be in abscission zones, and hence nothing external causing them. Could it be cultivation related?

    paola_b thanked Philip F
  • 6 years ago

    I will start then adding Fish liquid fertilizer... My Quietness does the same thing.

    Thank you all-:)

  • 6 years ago

    Paola: If you don't mind, will you let us know how things go once you start using the fertizilizer?

    paola_b thanked RedBird_7a EastTN
  • 6 years ago

    Also make sure that your plants aren't having any kind of water stress. Temperature shock has potential to do that as well, but I think water stress may be one of the more common causes, though anything affecting the root Zone could potentially be a Cause. Manganese deficiency resembles iron deficiency, or nitrogen deficiency on the leaves.

    paola_b thanked Philip F
  • 6 years ago

    To me, the first rose (on blue background) looks self-aborted...it's pretty yellow. The second rose looked like a weight was put on the bud...like a bird or something. I'm probably wrong..but just throwing this out as an idea.

    paola_b thanked rosecanadian
  • 6 years ago

    Paola, like Lilyfinch and Stephanie, my roses have a tendency to drop buds off and on just as yours are doing. And like Stephanie, My Perle d'OR is prone. Marie Pavie also drops a number of buds as does Violette. Tamora is another one. I say "drop" because I don't think there is an exterior force at work in my garden. I think something is happening inside the.plant itself that causes the problem. Philip's comment about abscission zones is interesting because the cut is so clean, and it happens in almost exactly the same place on every bud that falls. Carol

    paola_b thanked portlandmysteryrose