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Not me again with another no ID.

Well, Cori Ann had wanted to try Molly Sharman-Crawford and then she went back to school and we never saw one, so I thought I would try. I got one from Rose Petals (wonderful nursery) last Fall and it has it's first bloom just now. MSC is a green tinged white. This plant is more of an apricot bloom, quite large. Very prickly. Any ideas? My Reve d'Ors are a lot smoother stems.

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  • 6 years ago




  • 6 years ago

    No idea...but it's very pretty!! Is it a tea rose??? That's all I got. LOL

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked rosecanadian
  • 6 years ago

    What I ordered was a Tea, so I hope so but I don't know for sure. RPs has a wonderful huge selection. If I emailed photos maybe they could tell me. Sometimes first photos really don't tell the whole story, but this one I got has gorgeous buds and I hope some of the hot weather gardeners will know. I know you would recognize the cold area puzzles. I'd have better luck guessing those myself too.

  • 6 years ago

    What a beautifully delicate looking rose. The shape of it is really pristine and the color the perfect shade of shade of peach. I hope you find out who this treasure is. Any fragrance?

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked oursteelers 8B PNW
  • 6 years ago

    It’s destiny, Sheila, your lovely home and grounds are attracting all the NOIDs from near and far! But lucky you, that new one looks like a real keeper.

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 6 years ago

    A beautiful plant, whatever it is! I've got no idea, really -- so hard with teas especially since they tend to change color so much. Maybe Rock Hill Peach Tea? Anna Olivier or Lady Roberts? Whatever it is, it looks great!

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked K S 7a Yakima
  • 6 years ago

    Sheila, something about it reminds me of Lady Hillingdon, but I thought you grew her already? I may be mis-remembering. But in any case, the bloom really favors LH. I can't recall the foliage specifics right now, but I'll go look at mine later today.


    John

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked fig_insanity Z7b E TN
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you all. I do have Lady H John. I love her. She has a deeper yellow color here and different foliage. This plant seems more upright and prickly. I do have Anna Olivier too, and she and Reve d'Or are not this plant. I agree, she is a beauty and I have had wonderful plants come this mislabeled way.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I have allergies, but do detect lovely fragrance. Wonderful Cydney Wade from RPs is going to try to help. I forwarded photos.

  • 6 years ago

    Schmidt’s Buff Giant? Reminds me of mine from RPN.

    Cydney always puts a second label in the bottom of the pot, too. So it’s true ID may be there. 😊

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked Perma n’ Posies/9A FL
  • 6 years ago

    Maybe Safrano??

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    The glitch here is that this plant has many prickles. Perma, the little second label I saved




    also said Molly Sharmon-Crawford .I have SBG because I think that is Anna Olivier, which I have, and Safrano is low on prickles. HMF says Anna Olivier is related to Safrano. So, both low while this plant is so prickly. I'm wondering about Mlle Jeanne Phillipe, or Mme Melanie Willermoz at the moment. Anyone have them? Is aging warm white.


    Thanks for helping.

  • 6 years ago

    KS, Rock Hill Peach Tea is a possible. It fades white. Apparently, Dr. Manners and Brittie have this one according to HMF. I hope someone could go look at the prickles on that one. Cydney Wade said she had not heard of a mislabeled Molly S-C until mine. Brittie contributes wonderful photos and journal entries to HMF but I don't think she is on here.

  • 6 years ago

    Brittie used to post here though I don't think she does anymore. I hope Ya'll get it figured out Shelia! I know how frustating it can be.

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked Alana8aSC
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    The blooms definitely remind me of Safrano. To my eye, it is the leaves of your rose that do not appear consistent with Safrano. Young plants can grow out of and into showing what they are so I thought... maybe...

    I hope Cydney can ID it for you, Sheilah. At least it is a very pretty old rose. All of my NOIDs have been bright yellow roses that would never complement the aesthetic of my garden at the time.

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 6 years ago

    I have been really lucky to get great roses even if a surprise variety. Cydney at Rose Petals is also considering Rock Hill Peach Tea. I'm hoping she can tell me if it has mega prickles.

  • 6 years ago

    Lynn, I'll keep you posted. Safrano would be great too.

  • 6 years ago

    I have no idea why, but the first thought that came to my mind was Jaune Desprez. I had this rose once at another house and something about this one seemed similar. Probably wrong, but just another rose to throw out there for consideration,.

    Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you, Ingrid. I have not met that rose so far but HMF says it does have prickles. It is in the right color camp. I'll need to give it plenty of room if it is a noisette. These first blooms can be so misleading too. What it was supposed to be, MS-C, is so distinctive that it just cannot be that. This rose color has so many more possibilities.

    I did an autopsy yesterday on a bloom each of my Georgetown Tea and Madame Lombard/Lambard which have come from ARE and almost always look identical to me. Cass did great photos in HMF describing the petal base as more pink white and with darker pink veins for Georgetown Tea, and more sulfur yellow base without veins for Madame Lombard. I think mine might both be Madame Lombard. Cass's photos are in the Georgetown Tea HMF.



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