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Rhody Pruning Project

6 years ago

My wife and I dug up this rhody from a co-worker's parents house 15 years ago. It lived in a too small space for 30 years and was pruned into a ball each year. We've let it just grow and every year I think about pruning it to remove some of the tangle the "ball pruning" gave it, and every year it has put on a better and better show. I know pruning would reduce the number of flowers. and the tangle is such a mess I don 't know where to start. Between the two thoughts I have always opted to "maybe next year".


Well, maybe that's this year? But really where do I start. I know a few basic pruning concepts. Remove, dead, diseased and crossing branches, then prune for shape. But what shape should it be. I'm hoping these pictures give an idea what's involved and you can give me some advice. I am concerned I will start hacking away and ruin this poor plant.







Comments (17)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The same shape it is now ... a dome.

    I would start by establishing the outer shape first, to whatever size you want, and then look at what's left that you have to work with, in order to decide what else needs to go away.

    SeniorBalloon thanked Yardvaark
  • 6 years ago

    If it looks like the first photo all the way around the plant, then I'm not sure any pruning is called for. In our climate, rhodies can grow to a significant size (even the so-called dwarfs) and look best when they are just left to their own devices when space allows.....as it does in this case.

    My inherited garden has a collection of rhodies dating from the early 60's when the house was built. Several are close to 20' tall and nearly twice as wide. They never get pruned. The only ones that receive any pruning attention are those included in planting beds with other shrubs and plants and get trimmed back every so often so as not to overwhelm their companions.

    SeniorBalloon thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago

    I should have mentioned that I do kind of have a shape in mind. More tree like, showing some leg, as Mike (BoTann in the old days) would say. My wife and I visited some gardens on lake Como in Italy and there we saw the tallest rhodies I've ever seen, easily over a hundred feet. I've also seen some tall, tree like rhodies in the Arboretum. So different from the round shapes you usually see.


    I could be fine leaving it alone, but if I could remove some of the tangle, expose some of the larger inner branches without making it look like something from a Dr Seuss book...Hmm, maybe that wouldn't be so bad. :o)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Your plant doesn't have an already tree like shape that suggests arborizing it. Quite the opposite in fact, with it instead being a broad dense mound. Also the value of showing a little leg depends on those legs being nice looking, as in having attractive bark. Something that many hybrid rhododendrons don't have that much of. (Same with English hollies and numerous other kinds of evergreen trees and shrubs that get limbed up frequently, to their visual detriment).

  • 6 years ago

    My wife and I visited some gardens on lake Como in Italy and there we saw the tallest rhodies I've ever seen, easily over a hundred feet.

    Are you talking about the tree rhododendrons at Villa Carlotta? They are truly magnificent, but I agree with the other comments that yours doesn't lend itself to having its legs exposed. It's lovely as is!

  • 6 years ago

    Yes, Villa Carlotta! Just amazing, like something from the land of the giants.


    I believe @Embothrium may be right about this. One of the issues I am concerned about is the larger, structural limbs are rather far apart. Pruning to expose those could make it look like Picasso Poodle.


    Thanks to all for your thoughts.

  • 6 years ago

    From Villa Carlotta web site - scroll down to Tree Rhododendrons

    https://www.villacarlotta.it/en/garden/

  • 6 years ago

    Interesting, am I understanding correctly tree rhododendrons are a different species than the shrub rhodies common here?

  • 6 years ago

    Yes juniorballon, there are different varieties of rhodies. I am sure the giant ones I saw at Bodanant gardens in Wales would never survive the Texas heat that my little Encore azaleas do. I rarely prunes them because my dear hubby keeps stomping them hanging Christmas lights and gutter cleaning. Even when I put tomato cages over them he still managed to weed whack some. They are still surviving and hopefully chopping out the jungle of yaupons and Asian jasmine will let them grow.
    As for those gorgeous rhododendrons of the original post, I suspect it has too many main branches or trunks to shape into a tree form. But you could look for low branches to remove to "raise" the canopy.

    SeniorBalloon thanked kathleen MK
  • 6 years ago

    Yes. Rhododendron arboreum is known as the tree rhododendron, although other species can grow to significant heights. Our native species, R. macrophylla, is often found stretching up 25-30' or more. The shrub forms one finds in most gardens and nurseries/garden centers are rather complex hybrids.

    Since you live in the area, I'd encourage you to visit the Rhododendron Species Foundation garden in Federal Way once restrictions are lifted and free travel resumed. Not only is it a gorgeous botanical garden in all seasons but it is the largest collection of rhododendron species anywhere.

    SeniorBalloon thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago

    It has been on my list to visit the Rhododendron Species Foundation garden for far too long. Would be a good way to celebrate the lifting of restrictions.

  • 6 years ago

    The only way you are going to get rid of that 30 plus 15 year old tangle of branches is to cut the rhodo back to the nub of the main trunks and regrow it from scratch. At 45 years old it might not respond with much enthusiasm. It looks happy enough and could regrow just fine and be back to full flower in two seasons. That hard of a prune on an old rhodo does have some risk.

  • 6 years ago

    Clearing out that tangle is not really necessary. It's not affecting the growth of the rhody and is not very visible, at least from the views I can see, so wonder why even contemplating any pruning. The plant will not be enhanced by having its "skirts lifted" and while you can hard prune large, mature overgrown rhodies - have done it many times - it takes longer than just two seasons for them to start putting that growth back on and looking good.

    IMO, it looks just fine the way it is.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The structural tangle this shrub has doesn't lend itself to making into a tree. Why not start out somewhere else with a new young pup and take it in that direction?

  • 6 years ago

    I'm just going to leave it. I may look into getting a true tree rhododendron. Perhaps, long after I'm gone, someone in 50 years might get to see a 50 foot tall rhody in full bloom..