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What to do with my subfloor

Hi everyone,

I recently ripped up my old tile and parquetry and am replacing it with luxury vinyl plank.

Because the existing 5/8" plywood subfloor has a few too many divots, I'm planning to put down 3/8" plywood over it to give the plank a nice, clean surface to "float" on.

The problem I have is there are two areas in the space where my floor dips a little bit (roughly 3/4" within a 6 foot distance).

For context, the space includes the living room, a hallway and the kitchen/dining area (in the shape of an H, more or less).

I know vinyl plank doesn't need a level floor, but is this dip too much? If so, what do you guys think my best bet is to flatten it?

Thanks for any suggestions/feedback!

Comments (9)

  • 6 years ago

    "I know vinyl plank doesn't need a level floor, but is this dip too much?"


    Absolutely way too much. Needs to be within an 1/8" over 10'. You may need to use self leveling compound. Make certain 3/8" underlay of ok, and that it is a solid core plywood or heals will punch thru.

  • 6 years ago

    it's a concrete foundation.

    3/8 plywood is solid spruce.

    thanks for the feedback!

  • 6 years ago

    Vinyl MUST HAVE flat. The dip you are talking about is TOO MUCH. The ideal fix is to resurface the subfloor (patch the divots with something so the new subfloor doesn't crack down in to the divots) and then lay the new subfloor. Once it is smooth, then the leveling can begin.


    Or you skip the whole 'new subfloor' surface and pay to have the plywood skim coated. But that's a whole 'nother conversation.


    Photos of what you have. And PLEASE listen to your installer. A proper 'flooring person' will know what to do. You must write into the contract the subfloor preparation. With a situation like yours, you should expect a quote for $2-$4/sf for subfloor prep. Installation of the vinyl will be extra.

  • 6 years ago

    There are a number of good leveling compounds on the market for floors; have a look at them, see which best suits your needs, and follow the instructions.


    I agree it's worth having your foundation looked at, though, as that's quite a dip. You don't want to just compound over a serious problem, thus leaving it to fester and get worse. Having lived in a couple of older houses now where the problem wasn't a *problem* so much as just lazy or slapdash workmanship from the original builders, I can say it's not necessarily that something's deteriorating or gone wrong, it might just be that they didn't install the floor level to begin with...but it's best to know for sure!

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here's a photo of the gap in the dining room. this is over a 5 foot span.

    The area where it dips is where the old kitchen was, so it contained the stove, fridge, cabinets, underlayment and heavy, 1/2" tiles. Could the extra weight have made it dip over time?

    the house was built in 1995. Our home inspection didn't reveal any foundation issues, so I assume we can rule that out.

    As for the living room, the gap is about 1/2" within a 5 foot span.

  • 6 years ago

    Sorry for the abysmal photo... here's a better one!

  • 6 years ago

    If kitchen appliances and cabinets made your floor system "dip" over time you have more issues than the dip.

  • 6 years ago

    Ouch! That's 12mm over 1.5m! The allowance for most flooring products is 3mm over 3m. That is a BIG dip.


    I would look to the joists underneath the figure out the issue. I'm going to guess you will need to sister the joists from below to get the dip to correct. And yes, if the 'heavy stuff' was sitting on a floor-joist system that was structurally inadequate (yet up to code...sigh) then things can 'sag'.


    It's possible this is a foundation issue, but it is more likely a floor-joist issue.