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Globe Colorado Blue Spruce

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Hello-

Thanks in advance! singly beautiful but getting bigger all the time GCBS in 2004. Can it be pruned back? A neighbor said no don't touch it. It is getting so big and I didn't allow it enough room to grow in my landscape bed- big mistake. Any suggestions? It also has a disease for the 1st time, where it is being munched on by something, brown, dead, stripped branches. I spayed with Bayer and hope this helps. But will the foilage come back or is the effected branched gone for good? Oh, by the way I live in NE Indiana, zone 5 or 6 I think.

Thanks in advance!

Julyguy

Comments (17)

  • 6 years ago

    ^^

    What she said. Impossible to tell without pics, but google rhizosphaera needle cast in blue spruce. You are likely living on borrowed time in my experience. And no, the damaged areas don’t grow back.

    Michael Beery thanked indianagardengirl
  • 6 years ago

    I thank you both very much! It was so small and a shrub when first bought. I read that the ball or globe eventually turns into a cone-shape when it matures. So this disease is the beginning of the end? I'm surprised it lasted this long. Gosh, my neighbor has 4 of them in the small globe stage.

    Thanks again,

    Julyguy

  • 6 years ago

    I just google the needle cast and looks like what I have. I sprayed it with Bayer that I had on hand but is meant for pests not fungus. So wasted time on that. Thank you both again, appreciate it. Now that I have it, what would the best treatment be?

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    A confined area makes things even worse because there's not enough air circulation to help combat the fungus. Can't help you with a formula.

    Michael Beery thanked User
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    With further reading it sounds like July is too late to treat with a fungal remedy, the best time in the spring, but another report said late August/early September. Anyone have any experience with treatment timig? Thank you again!

  • 6 years ago

    I didn’t treat mine as the tree was quite tall, and I felt it was too ugly to save by the time I understood what was happening. So I opted to remove instead. Maybe someone else can help regarding treatment options.

    Michael Beery thanked indianagardengirl
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    The fact these continue to be sold anywhere, bar the intermountain west where they belong, sadly tells you all you need to know about the American nursery industry as a whole. Perfectly happy to take advantage of people's ignorance. They are absolute trash. They are particularly bad in the more humid parts of the mid-Atlantic like my locale. I have about 3 in my neighborhood that are huge eyesores and I'm flabbergasted people don't cut them down. About 80% dead twigs. Utterly hideous. Yet I see them for sale every spring at the nearby Lowes and HD!

    Michael Beery thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 6 years ago

    conifers are trees ... and basically.. they never stop growing ...


    this one has a proclivity to stay in a ball shape .. hence the proper name ... Picea pungens 'Globosa'


    since they are cheap ... you wouold be best off.. just bing done with this one.. and if you wish ... just buy another ... though i agree with the other peeps ... its just a future problem ...


    my bottom line is the old cost benefit ratio .. is it really worth it to spend 20.. 50 ... bucks.. whatever.. to try to save a 15 dollar plant ..????


    shearing is very time specific ... its addressed here: https://conifersociety.org/conifers/learn/designing-with-conifers/


    but frankly.. imo.... you should have started the process with a young plant... it might be very hard to institute such on an older mature plant ...


    and besides.. it already has the other problems.. so just be done with it ..


    july and august is not really tree planting time for most of the US ... so work on removing it .. and replacing it in fall or early next spring ...


    with a pic or 2 of the spot.. we might be able to make suggestions ... most of my large collection came mail order .. so dont settle for just what the bigbox might offer ... especially if you have a limited space .. get a tree that will fit that space for decades ...


    ken







    Michael Beery thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    I just started , this year , spraying my ( 6 ) different Picea pungens with Draconil

    will have to see if this helps at all

    this disease is getting worse year after year

    and yes , a 'Globosa can be pruned

    in his book , Adrian Bloom talks specifically about pruning one

    ron

    mine



    Michael Beery thanked plantkiller_il_5
  • 6 years ago

    All your comments as so valuable. I learn every time I submit a question. The Globe Blue Spruce has some meaning, as it was my mom's purchase and her favorite but she has passed on now. So I want to keep it as long as it is feasible. I took a sample to Purdue University Extension for them to give a diagnosis and suggestions. It probably will be what you all have said but for 3 dollars it is worth it. 98 % of the globe still looks fabulous. From the street you can't tell, but of course I do, so am bothered by it. I might trip the bottom branches which are laying on the landscaping stone. Maybe it will give it more ventilation as someone noted. And I can get rid of the damaged limbs since they aren't coming back.

    Thank you all again,

    Julyguy

  • 6 years ago

    this used to be the go to blue plant in front of every mc donalds in mi... a decade back or so ... they sheared them every year .... but i am pretty sure.. they sheared them in spring .. not summer .. and i think they sheared them like pines ... when new growth was soft.. so new buds could set ... if in fact.. the landscape dude actually knew what he was doing .. other than just shearing every plant in front of the store ... lol ...


    ken

    Michael Beery thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    I will look into Dracanil. I read about that somewhere also. Mine looks much like Plantkiller's.

  • 6 years ago

    LOL!! That would be Daconil :-) Much easier to find when spelled correctly.

    Michael Beery thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago

    Just seeing who is paying attention!

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    no,no dracula makes mine

    ronha

    Michael Beery thanked plantkiller_il_5
  • 6 years ago

    Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with a french product.