Ben, I have a baby one too that looks just like the ones in your picture. Got it as a grafted bare root from Regans. Are those grafted plants? The leaves on mine have a lighter color:

A bit earlier, in June, I was walking around in the morning wondering what is that I am smelling? I realized it was Perfumed Breeze. To my nose not at all what I would call 'Rose' but a wonderful floral fragrance. And it wafts. I like it, I like it!

I am sorry I cannot answer your questions. I am joining in as I too would like to know its habit and blooming-ness. All to help me decide where to place it for best effect. The few pictures I have seen show that it can get big.

Thanks for sharing Katya. I agree the scent is not like a traditional rose at all, but it is very pleasant and wafts a long distance. I’m pretty sure mine are grafted on Dr Huey, since I got it direct from Certified and that’s what they use.

I’d like to hear how it does, too.

I don’t have any roses that waft. I first paid attention to that term, here, when Moses used it. Honeysuckle, mock orange and viburnum burkwoodii do it for me. I wonder if Perfumed Breeze would do well no spray in NJ.

rifis: Honeysuckle, mock orange and viburnum burkwoodie are very fragrant and very wafty for me too. Which mock orange(s) and honeysuckle(s) do you have if I may ask? the common honeysuckle (japonicum} became so invasive I had to remove it painstakingly. But it does have scent to die for over and over again.

This rose Perfumed Breeze most definitely wafts!

Fragrance, even just talking about it really gets me going. I had started a thread on roses whose fragrance wafts. I dont want to hijack this thread so I will start it again separately.

rifis: forgot to add: I have not sprayed this rose since it arrived in my garden and dont see any BS or other fungal or insect issues so far.

I am intrigued by this rose. Is the fragrance similar to Rosa multiflora? That is one I would also describe as very floral but not necessarily rose-like.

Chris,

I don’t think it smells like multiflora at all. Maybe someone more familiar with antique roses can say which legacy roses have similar scent. Barni has so far kept the parentage a mystery. I can only say the smell is wonderful and wafts extremely well. When we arrived at the trailer sale there were 6 big plants wafting through the area around them, and by the time we left they were all gone. (We were guilty of making 3 of them disappear, early bird gets the wafting rose Lol).

katyajini: I missed this until now. Of the shrubs that “ waft for me”, only mockorange is in my yard. The other 2 I notice while out walking.

The honeysuckle is L. japonicum, and I agree with you about its merits. I do have L. periclymenum “Serotina” at home; I just moved it back in March to make way for a rose (Savannah). Mannerly, later blooming, but just slightly fragrant. No wafting. It’s foliage is quite nice, too.

The mockorange was planted over 45 years ago, based on records from the prior owner. I don’t know what ( if any) named variety it is. Were varieties of mock orange even recognized/ developed back then? I do realize that period was not antediluvian. A plantsman ( or plantswoman) might say it is “straight species”. It doubles as effective screening, and gets at least 11 or 12 feet tall.

Sorry, Ben. I see now this should have gone in the wafting discussion.

Back to Perfumed Breeze. I’m pleased to hear it does well no spray for katyajini, who I believe is in this region. I may need to make a spot for it, though it will require sorcery.

Thank you rifis. I dont think 45 years is that far back for mockorange. have you been to the cloisters at the northern tip of manhattan? this park has mockorange along the two sides of the roads. many different types with different types of flowers and they have distinct fragrances. that was quite a revelation. and these shrubs bloom in good deal of shade.

Finding space, I dont know how people do it without emotion.

Any updates on Pefumed Breeze? Now that some folks have had another season with her, how well did she repeat?

I hope you get some responses! I’m excited for this season (2) with it . Mine is still in a pot and I moved it behind a peacock statue for some fluffy drama . I really love this rose . Something I had to come to terms with here is the roses really do shut down in the extreme heat we get and I have to forgive them during that time . Honestly it gets so hot walking to our pool is too much for me! But it bloomed so nicely the rest of the season .

Wow ben !! What a pic !!! That’s so beautiful. Like a fountain

It's a pity I can't say much about repeat. I've had Perfumed Breeze for a little more than 1 year, and it's first flush lasted quite long (3 months?). First buds early March, and still flowering during June. Didn't take very noticeable breaks in between, and always seemed to have a couple sprigs of blooms. Incredible wafting scent. However, the heat during the summer was quite bad. Didn't really have an autumn, and didn't drop below 90s until middle of November. With 105+ degrees for so many months, it lost all but two canes. I admit I couldn't give it a lot of water, or it would probably have done a lot better. Still recovering now, but has made progress towards leafing out some tiny leaves.

Photo taken Jun 8th, when temps had been hovering around 100-102 for two weeks.

She really does drape very beautifully.

Thanks for the feedback Marasc. I especially appreciate the pic in the 100+ weather. Hope your plant recovers from last summer. I agree there was some decent repeat, and the wafting scent is terrific.

Juts got one from Home Depot in Reston VA for 50% off for $17.50

How wonderful! I bought a second one from Raft Island Roses this spring and it's doing well in a pot. Putting on lots of growth from the summer monsoon, always with one or two sprays blooming in half shade. It's one of my favorites in the yard! I'd love to see some pictures of yours if you can.

Hello Friends!!!

@BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14) You started this thread last year asking how this rose repeats and performs in general....

I got so sick last fall and had bought 10s of new roses in spring that were still in grow bags....Leave alone planting them, they were not even getting watered. In November, a little before Thanksgiving my husband planted all of them for me. Since I am(!) in the process of completely redoing my garden I guess he thought what the heck and planted them willy nilly, any old where, all over my back yard. I came out in Spring and all of them had survived(!) except one Abraham Darby which had been an extremely little plant and was quite neglected all summer. However, so many of the roses had labels missing. All this to say: I found Perfume Breeze in no time flat. Unmistakable habit, flowers and scent.

AND this rose has been blooming all summer. It's put up cane after cane. And looong trusses of flowers in shades of pink form at the tip of the canes and weigh the canes down. @marascz9b It DOES DRAPE beautifully, I have no idea how one deadheads roses that grow in panicles (is that the right word?) like that. Lyda Rose and Guirlande d'Amour bloom in panicles too. Well I just cut the whole panicle off at the bottom when all the flowers were done. Soon a bunch of buds formed at every node below the cut.

I thought about you Ben, and your question about rebloom, early this spring. (I was so worried about the Texas freeze). I was browsing Heirloom Roses and they have PB now and their description says that the rose is continuously blooming. And so it is.

My energy and concentration are totally shot. Taking pictures and then retrieving them feels like a big project, I did take a few pictures earlier in the year. If I can find them I will post below. The rose is much, much bigger now. though.

@rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ) I took very little care of my garden his year. Many of my new roses succumbed heavily to Black Spot, truly total defoliation. Although PB is surrounded by Black Spotters, absolutely no spots or discoloration on a single leaf of this beautiful rose.

Here is a picture of my PB in late May:

My garden is a mess. I am sorry. I learned something interesting watching this rose grow. The tuft of small stems near the ground is last year's growth. That growth is like a wide, low growing shrub; almost horizontal. This year the rose is sending up vertical canes, like a climber that it is. If you follow each cane from the base to its tips you will see buds. The canes are getting ready to bloom.

The same is true for Guirlande d'Amour:

You can see last year's horizontal growth (which already had a round of blooms) and then vertical canes blooming. This picture is in early July.

I had a huge rambler named Tausendschon that I lost to RRD. It did the same thing. I saw at least 5 years of only horizontal growth, but the mound was 4-5 feet high. Then one day it just started growing upwards with huge arching canes. I am guessing because it is (was) meant to be a very large plant it took several years to gather energy for upward growth.

I dont have pictures of the rambler that illustrate the two different habits in its life history. But here are some pictures i posted of it last year. This was one sans souci rose.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5934056/id-of-this-very-large-pink-no-thorns-lax-caned-rambler

@Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca There is a reason I am writing all this here. Now I can clearly see that there are certain climbing roses that spend some time growing horizontally before doing any vertical growth. I am growing a large climber, Jasmina. It is the most darndest horizontal-with-stiff-canes rose I have ever seen. As I watched this rose grow from a rooted cutting I would ask why would anyone call this rose a climber???? There were long stiff canes (with sharp thorns) lying horizontally like spokes of a wheel that I could not fathom lifting to tie to a trellis. I remember searching the rose Forum for any information on Jasmina and read that Lily had uprooted and thrown away her Jasmina. It was frustrating seeing this long horizontal growth that you cannot do anything with. I bet Jasmina is going to send out vertical canes soon. Today I saw some strong 45 degree and 60 degree canes.

So much rambling 🤦‍♀️

Very nice to have one of this forum’s most valuable posters back, katyajini. Good to see you are on the mend. The notching discussion you oversaw is one of the very best ever.

No BS entering September is quite noteworthy. Even ”spray”. And do I remember correctly you are east coast no spray?

@rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ) Thank you so much. I missed being on the Rose Forum quite a bit. This really is like a family for me. I hope no one takes offense at that. By and by I will try to post my thoughts and observations. And yes I am East Coast spray and no spray. This year has been no spray so far. I went out to look again. Not a single discolored leaf on PB. Now its much bigger and more crowed but still not infected.

rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ) If you get a chance, I would love you to post your Kordes own-root crowns in the own-root or grafted thread....I would help me lots and others may really benefit too. Thanks

I have had Perfumed Breeze since April and it is very vigorous and disease free. Blooms continually and the clusters make a fun addition to vases of much larger blooms. It's not quite as fragrant as some of my roses but still pleasant.

Thanks everyone for the continued feedback on this rose, and good to see you posting again, katyajini.

I’ve had this rose for over 1 year now, and I think overall it’s been an excellent variety, and the repeat is truly outstanding. It almost always in bloom, I can’t think of another climber I’ve grown that repeats so well, perhaps only Lady in Red. The fragrance is floral to me, quite different from other modern roses, and does indeed waft very well. I hope to train mine into a tall fountain shape, I think it’d be spectacular .

Off topic Ben, what is the yellow rose on the left ?

Hi Kris,

the yellow rose is none other than Julia Child! Of course, she’s a real trooper, too

I'm curious how others perfume breeze is faring especially after the harsh winter. I'm going mine in a pot, so it's not affected but when I planted for a friend in the ground got some winter die back but not too bad. it was a young plant though.