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5 years ago

I've been walking around my property line, planning on where to clear out some brush before winter comes. Lots of blackberries and other plants but I've noticed a good amount of wild rose (I'm guessing Multiflora). I can't remember ever seeing flowers on these, but the plants are everywhere in our neighborhood. I'm in upstate NY with a lot of woodland around, house built on old farmland.


A lot of these wild rose bushes have the RRD gnarly leaves/twisted stems, but the plants range anywhere from 3 ft tall to giant 2 story tall ones climbing into trees in the woods by me.


I've been reading on how to deal with this. I'm a new rose grower this year, have only had 3 in my gardens (for the past 4 years tops - no disease signs on any of them). But I did buy a lot this year and have a lot planned for next year coming in the spring in spaces I worked on clearing and prepping myself all summer.


Is it even worth trying to grow roses if I can't eradicate all these wild roses and the disease in the neighborhood? I have tried cutting the ones I can get to at the base, clipping all their thick stems and letting the branches just die, tangled in whatever wild tree they're in. But I'm worried doing this will make whatever mites are on them move on and find my garden roses.


Would it be smart to have some sort of clean up crew come and clear as many as I can find, and haul off all the pieces? Will that cause the mites/disease to spread since the host plant dies?


Has anyone lived with RRD wild roses near their property and been able to grow their own garden roses?


Also wondering if anyone has any idea if predatory mites or bugs may work? At least to protect my own roses, or even to release them in the spring around the infected wild roses further away on the property line?


Every time I am weed-whacking the edge of my property now, I notice small babies of these wild roses popping up. I can handle those, and the under 7 footers....but the really larger ones in the woods, climbing trees or tangled in giant forest weeds...not sure I'll win that war.


Sorry for so many questions! My mind has been busy trying to figure out if there's any way to realistically deal with this. I am bummed to think that I should just move on from even thinking of growing roses. It took me a few years of gardening to even feel confident in trying them out this year, and I really like them! But I have a bad feeling....

Comments (9)

  • 5 years ago

    Forgot to add , I too had those wild roses growing off my property. They were beautiful in spring ! I paid a local farmer to bush hog my part of it . The other owner didn’t want his part done. So I too had to live with it .

    Bc _zone10b thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
  • 5 years ago

    Yes, welcome! And, don't forget to change clothes and BATHE between walking through the wild multiflora and your roses. Those marvelous little mites hitch rides on the wind, wild life and YOU. They crawl between plants when they touch each other, so don't give them any help.

    Bc _zone10b thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago
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    Thank you both. This all sounds somewhat hopeful. I'm going to hire someone to just come in and take down every one that I can find. No point messing around with it. I think I'll drop some thick black drop plastic over each spot I find one of the big bushes of it. Kill it over the next year or two as best I can. I wonder if it would be best to remove it all now, before the cold winter temps, or to wait until colder weather, when the mites are hibernating in the stems? Less chance of them being alive and spreading into my yard maybe?


    *also @Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca - your pictures of Bathsheba are what got me into roses last winter :) I'd never seen such a nice flower on a rose before...now I have 2 and really like them. Great plants

  • 5 years ago

    It depends on where you are, rather exactly. I'm in northwestern Dutchess, and the combination of cold temperatures, high pH, and RRD is more than multiflora can handle. Before RRD arrived here, I suspected this would be the case, and now I've watched it long enough that it is an annoyance, but not much worse. Last winter was an issue because we never got winter, so I had to cut down 3 infected live multiflora in my yard instead of finding them dead. Few enough people grow garden roses around here, that there aren't many examples of the wichurana types that can last for years as infected plants.

  • 5 years ago

    Oh thank you B, it really is such a beautiful rose . I’m really excited for This spring for mine . It has exceeded my expectations for growth and blooms already !

  • 5 years ago

    I was wondering about that too @mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY) . Whether just chopping them at the base and letting their stems die over winter would be enough. Wasn't sure if the whole plant is infected or what.


    @Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca I love it! Mine are growing tall up a stone wall. will be interesting to see if they make it through winter

  • 5 years ago

    Did you pair it with a clematis? It is the perfect companion for one . I hope you are pleasantly surprised come spring !

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    @Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca I didn't, but I like that idea for my wall. I don't know much about clematis, but have seen some really crazy tropical looking ones at my nursery this past summer. Kind of puffy pinks, white and lavender. More dimensional, not as flat as clematis I'm used to. Do you recommend any clematis that survive zone 5 winters?

    I did put Bathsheba behind some of my korean lilacs though, which I really like. This is Bathsheba today. Lilac isn't in bloom but when they're all blooming together it was great. Not sure why but the color today was really bold in the center of bathsheba...especially with the golden hour light on her. I love the way the flowers are different color tones each flush she has-