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Graham Thomas’ canes all shriveled up

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago





I had to dig up my roses and it was a good thing for some of them. Graham Thomas was not getting enough water. The old wood looks normal (though it may be doomed and I just can’t tell), but the newer canes are withered. They still have white inside though.

I potted it up and watered it. Should I trim it down to the old wood or will these recover? If they may recover, how long should I give it before I prune them so the plant doesn’t waste its energy on them?

Comments (16)

  • 5 years ago

    I don't know how big your rose is, or where you live. If you live in a mild climate, I would cut the rose back to healthy looking wood, and then water it a LOT. If you live where it is still freezing, i would get advice from someone who lives in a colder climate.


    Jackie

    suncoastflowers thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Oh sorry. I’m in Florida. Our highs are in the mid 70’s right now.

  • 5 years ago

    It’s about three years old. The old wood is about 3 inches think but only about 10-12 inches long? The new canes are over 6 feet but spindly. After I prune them back would it be safe to give it some diluted emulsion?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Thank you Kim. Thats a great idea. I’ll move it to a shadier location and wrap what isn’t pruned. I didn’t see this in time to save the newer growth. :(

  • 5 years ago

    @suncoastflowers you're welcome! I can't claim credit for the tee shirt idea. It's what @roseangellyn discovered some years ago and shared with me. Good luck!

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks :) If I can keep from loving it to death and it’s not to late hopefully I’ll have some progress pictures to post soon. 😂

  • 5 years ago

    Try growing it in some more shade! I have some austins in partial shade and they do well, make sure to water them tons too. Mine only grow when they have copious amounts of water. Good luck!

    suncoastflowers thanked Bp37 Zone 10 South Florida
  • 5 years ago

    Graham Thomas is a notorious water hog! I use it as the canary in the mine for watering. He is always the first one to wilt when it's dry out there. But if I catch the wilt quick and water him well he usually perks right back up. See if you can find a spot where he only gets morning sun and keep him well watered and he should do fine.

    I know it goes against everything you've been told but...give your roses a shower now and then. As Kim said, they do take in water from the leaves and canes. Spraying them with the hose to wash them off (they get dusty and dirty) and cool them down will help them retain moisture. Especially in hot weather.

    suncoastflowers thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 5 years ago

    Absolutely, Seil! Water rehydrates them and pushes growth and bloom like crazy. Remember who good they look after a good rain? It washes off old spray residue (if that's something you have to do); dust, dirt and industrial pollution; ash from recent fires; and INSECTS and fungi spores. It isn't just GT demanding more water. As a group, DA roses demand significantly more water here than any other type, which is one (of many) reasons they aren't here any more.

    suncoastflowers thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! I will be more diligent! He was planted near the faucet because I had bear he was a water hog. Unfortunately he had a LOT of root competition and even though I amended the soil and mulched heavily, he suffered. He was in full sun near a white wall so I’m sure that didn’t help.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I’ll make sure that either he is either in part shade and that he gets a lot of water or possibly in a biiiig pot in the shade.


    I like the canary in the mineshaft idea.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you all for the guidance. When is it safe to feed him? I have Alaska Fiish Emulsion Fertilizer, Milorganite and some well rotted horse manure that might be OK.. I also have Osmocote but I don’t that is organic and would be more likely to burn.


    GT looks looks he has a basal break!

  • 5 years ago

    Don't feed that plant until it is flush with new foliage. Even fish emulsion is "salty" compared to plain old water. Water stressed plants, given salty water, dry out further. Between here and Face Book, I can't tell you how may posts I have recently read of people transplanting and fertilizing "shriveled plants". Never apply anything other than water to a plant suffering water stress until it fully expresses it is no longer water stressed. The best indication it is no longer water stressed is when it fully covers itself with fresh, new foliage.

    suncoastflowers thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you Kim! I’ll definitely wait then!

  • 5 years ago

    @suncoastflowers you're welcome! Good luck!