Red Eden vs. Florentina Climbing Rose

5 years ago

Which will be the better red climber for me? I love romantic looking roses with full round globular shaped blooms, so when I saw pics of Red Eden and Florentina, I knew I just had to have one in my garden.

I just don’t have room for both... so which will be the better rose for me?
Which one will be the more prolific bloomer? I want lots of blooms, that last a long time on the plant. I would love it to be continuous blooming from spring to fall. Which will be quicker to establish and start blooming?

I’m very particular about the color. It needs to stay a deep red with cool blue/purple tones... (no warm orange tones). I have a cool color palate of pink roses, white roses, creamy blush roses and magenta pink roses, as well as purple and blue perennials. It needs to Not fade or burn in the hot dry Southern California sun.

Please share your experience with growing either of these roses and the conditions you grow it in.

My Growing Conditions: I live in Coastal Southern California, Zone 10b. Summers are hot and dry and winters are very mild, we never get freezing temps here. We get afternoon winds from the coast and dry desert winds Several times throughout the year. Will be grown in all day, full sun conditions.

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Diane Brakefield

5 years ago

I don't grow either climber, but that photo of Florentina is a ringer for Ascot. For that reason, I say grow Florentina if you want the cool, blue toned blooms. I hope others that have experience with these two roses will post. Diane

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Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22
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5 years ago
In case you’d like to check it out... the pics of the Florentina rose are from a channel on YouTube called, 4am. There are wonderful rose and garden videos on here and the Florentina she grows in breathtakingly beautiful.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCnguQAnOiN0ehupfwwEdL9w
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4 years ago
Hi @Ann-SoCalZ10b SunStZ22, I know this is from last year so it may be a moot point. I have both, and Red Eden is gorgeous with huge sprays of blooms that are sometimes fragrant and sometimes not. I wanted to pillar mine, but the canes are NOT flexible. I mean, you can curve them slightly, but if you want to pillar it, no way. They snap. The canes on mine are about an inch thick! And just as you start to bend them, they snap. It's still a gorgeous rose, but it's really more of a very large shrub (gorgeous tho). Mine seems oblivious to disease.

Florentina flowers are very similar but a bit brighter red. The foliage is smaller and shinier (pretty). The canes are VERY flexible and lends itself to climbing much more easily IMO. It's a beautiful rose.

If you really wanted a true climber, I'd go with Florentina, but if you have room for both, they are both just beautiful.
User
4 years ago
PDXRobertZ8 Thanks for more info. As ordering season draws near, I'm still wondering about the investment of time and effort collecting more roses. The bloom formation of Red Eden is so overpoweringly beautiful to me, if I can only have a few more roses this must be one of them.
BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
4 years ago
PDXRobert, do both Red Eden and Florentina repeat well for you?
User
4 years ago
Hi @BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14) yes they repeat well. Although, for Red Eden, it seems less of a repeat on my plant and more of an elongated state of bloom. One cane will produce a spray of flowers (some which fully open, some which don't---a lovely effect) and will hold on to those flowers for 3-4 weeks? As they begin to fade, another spray is coming up somewhere else, etc. Florentina repeats more like a regular rose bush in flushes.
User
4 years ago
This most stunning beauty Erik Tabarly turns out to be Red Eden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RooUwVP8RpA