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Upgrade Full Extension or not?

5 years ago

Hi All. We will place an order with Eclipse Frameless Cabinetry. The drawers and roll outs’ standard hardware is Blum Tandem Edge 7/8 Extension. I have an 18 inch pantry with 4 roll outs and 1 qty 12inch base cabinet with 4 drawers. Is an upgrade for Blum Full Extension worth it in my case? It will be total of qty 8 hardware upgrade which is $72 each so total of 576 plus tax. Is it worth it?

Comments (29)

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, full extension is worth it in my opinion.

  • 5 years ago

    I see. We also debated with RTA Barker Cabinets which is cheaper and their standard is full extension and also 3/4 plywood box construction. The only thing is that it doesnt come assembled. What do you think about Barker Cabinets?

  • 5 years ago
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    I did a kitchen about 20 years ago, and full extension drawers were an upgrade back then. My kitchen I did 7 years ago, the full extension and soft close on the drawers were both standard. Those cabinets were middle-of-the-road frameless cabinets from a local company. @Andrea P, I also have to wonder what other basic features the Eclipse cabinets you mentioned aren’t including. You definitely need to find another cabinet company. And you don’t have to go to RTA cabinets to find those standard features. Do a little more looking. This is a big investment and deserves more investigation on your part.

  • 5 years ago

    @miranda33, their standard is 5/8 dovetail drawer but I think is also standard in any other cabinet brands Except high end range which i cannot afford. I was gonna choose ultracraft but their plywood box is 5/8 instead of 3/4 and I read that people were having issues with painted finish. I saw Diamond and Shrock but did not like it. Dont know which brand I should explore too

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Eclipse standard drawer guide is CLOSE to full extension...it's a 7/8 extension. I think they did it to give people an entry level frameless option. Eclipse is an awesome price point! Stop looking...get Eclipse!

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you @the kitchen place. I also have another question whether to get a white laminate interior or natural laminate interior. The color of the Eclipse cabinets I chose is the Arctic White. I personally like Natural Laminate but my KD recommended that White Laminate interior looks better.

  • 5 years ago
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    If you want cheap cabinets, you have to be willing to accept downgrades. You aren’t getting decent quality mid grade cabinets, and you have to be OK with what they are lacking. Accept that they are lacking.

    Or you might as well move up to the higher level, at the higher cost. Upgrading all of the little things, one after the other, will leave you paying *more* than paying for a higher grade Iine to begin with.


    Not impressed with Barker. You can get Omega Full Access, already assembled, for not much more than they charge.

  • 5 years ago

    I went with Shiloh Eclipse Frameless cabinets already assembled because quote was $12000 and my wife didnt want to go over $14000 which was offered to us by a supplier of Omega Full Access. Plus the supplier of Omega, we have to figure out the exact measurement and all that, while the Eclipse supplier deals with the measurement up to the end dealing with the installer.

  • 5 years ago

    Youre sabotaging your project over only a 2K difference? That’s nuts.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi @mdln i have pantry with rollouts and 1 - 12” base cabinet with 4 drawers. Do you mind sharing a picture of your cabinets with natural interior? Did you do recessed for under cabinet kitchen lights?

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    If only 2K separated me from getting Omega Full Access, I’d jump on that deal so fast that my feet wouldn’t touch the ground. There’s a significant difference between the two lines of product. Omega are super high quality cabinets. You don’t play upgrade games with Omega. Everything you want is standard.

  • 5 years ago

    @TheCook’sKitchen and HU-290654264 OMG, i didnt know it is a significant difference in terms of quality. I thought they are the same lol

    I still have time to change my mind because my KD just finalized measurement yesterday and they havent ordered the cabinets. I have booked them to be my KD but we havent signed the cabinets agreement

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Any one that makes you upgrade to full extension should never try to position themselves as a mid grade line. That’s an entry level type thing. The 2K is a complete no brainer.

  • 5 years ago

    It appears they're charging you full price for the upgrade hardware without giving you a credit for the cost of the 7/8th hardware you're not using. Price both slides. then add them up. Determine the actual difference in cost. It's not $2k.

  • 5 years ago

    What do you mean you have to figure out the measurements with the Omega? It sounds like you’re getting more service out of the Shiloh??

  • 5 years ago

    @dan1888 $567 is total upgrade to full extension leads to $12k total for Eclipse , all plywood. The omega, a different supplier quoted as for $14k something

  • 5 years ago

    Hey @sashadog - The supplier of Omega, they do not go to the house to professionally measure and check everything but with the supplier of the Shiloh, they deal with the layout, go to your house to measure and deal with the installer til the end

  • 5 years ago

    The supplier of Omega they make the layout but basically you have to tell them the exact measurement, they do not go to the house to measure and make sure everything is right

  • 5 years ago
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    You should definitely have someone check the measurements for you. It sounds like in addition to being less expensive, the Shiloh is offering you a very important service, they are taking on the responsibility of getting the install right. Who would do that if you went with Omega?

    Im going to be the lone voice to say stick to your budget.


    Also, my drawers are 7/8 extension and it’s never been an issue.

  • 5 years ago
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    Your cabinet installer is who should be double checking any design. From any cabinet supplier. Before it’s ordered. Do you not have a contractor already involved for this fall when all of this work will take place? You’re not thinking you can install this?


    A 2K difference between entry level and high end custom is crazy good.

  • 5 years ago

    Not seeing your layout, I can only say that one of the reasons I remodeled my kitchen was because I only had one drawer stack, 12" wide.


    There's a distinct possibility you can do better.

  • 5 years ago

    I have a really small place. Here’s the initial layout they did. Shiloh supplier just measured yesterday so they will still update it.

  • 5 years ago

    The wall cabinet on top of the fridge will be changed for sure because there is a ceiling box (vent) so the cabinet that will be there is going to be smaller

  • 5 years ago

    Can you swap the pantry to the left of the fridge?

    That way you won’t have to worry about the fridge door hitting the wall, and you will have a counter landing zone right next to the fridge.


    With Omega, who would confirm the layout?

  • 5 years ago

    Okay All! I talked to the supplier of Shiloh and they told me they also offer Omega and that we can switch from Shiloh to Omega Full Access!! Yay! The cheapest Shaker is the Blair Door Style (5pc) which has veneer door center panel, it is enough, right?

  • 5 years ago

    You can switch for the same price???

  • 5 years ago

    Not sure if you already have a fridge located like your layout. If not, keep in mind the clearance needed on left side for door to swing open properly without the wall blocking a full opening of the door.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi @Sashadog, not exactly same price, about $500 difference