I’m sorry, I don’t know its name.

Is the yellow band at the base of the rose a tag placed by your cousin?

Was this rose propagated from a cutting from you grandmother’s rose?

That looks a lot like John Cabot, a Canadian rose released around 1970ish and loved by gardeners in cold climates. Of course, he could be grown anywhere. He's a big guy and can climb or just be a big shrub. Yours looks like he wants to be tall. The stamens are usually exposed, but sometimes the blooms are so full, they cover them. I would call the foliage semi glossy to glossy, and the first bloom is so profuse, you can hardly see the leaves, then there seems to be color on it all season, just not as much. The fragrance is mild. If it is John Cabot, you will be happy to know it propagates easily. I am not good at propagating cuttings, but I've just stuck a cutting of this one in the ground and he takes off. Roses saved from past generations add something special and personal to our gardens. Good luck.

You can check him out here - https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.1931&tab=1. Click on the "Photos" tab at the top for more pics.

Good point, rifis. I assumed the rose in the pic was propagated from the grandmother's rose. The rose shown looks a little too young to take cuttings from, but given time, if it's JCabot, you will have more than enough. I fill a big wheelbarrow when I prune and shape mine up.

Yes my cousin has the Rose from my grandmother's garden and she propagated plants from that one for my sister. The tag is one my sister put on which simply says Grandma's Rose. 🙂

Flowersaremusic, thank you so much for that wealth of information! Good to know that it grows well and propagates easily, that was something that I was concerned about. I will go check out John Cabot.

Let's start over.

1. Where did your grandmother live?
2. Where does your cousin live?
3. Do you know how large the rose has gotten for your cousin?
4. Can we have pictures of leaves and canes?
5. Does the rose repeat?
6. Does the rose have disease issues?
7. Does the rose have winterkill issues?

To add to Mad's questions, is it fragrant and how big did you grandmother's plant grow, if anyone recalls. Is there any thing for size reference? is this a small plant in the picture. How large are the flowers, in general?

My grandmother lived in PA. My cousin and my sister also live in PA. My sister just got this small plant from my cousin last fall. So it really is not full grown.

I really don't have the information about how big it gets or bloom habits, but I might be able to find out. I'll ask my sister for leaf and cane pics. Thanks!

PA is a big state. Please be more specific. Philly, Harrisburg, Snowshoe? Different roses are going to perform differently depending on where they are.

Hostalover, there are a lot of roses in this color range with a semi double form and yellow stamens. IF, and its a big IF, it is JC, it will grow just about anywhere, including areas with very cold winters. Mine holds up well to our triple digit heat in the summer, too. It is super hardy to both extremes.

Other roses you might look up are Duchess of Portland and Apothecary's Rose. Maybe someone in the family would remember if she had an interest in old garden roses, sometimes called antique roses. She might have passed on some garden books that would give you a clue to what kind of roses she liked.

I'm curious to hear what you come up with in your search.

Thank you all so much for taking the time to help me. I have new information. This was indeed my grandmother's rose, but she got it from my great-grandmother (her mother). My great-grandmother died in 1935. So it cannot be John Cabot.

My sister, cousin, grandmother, and great-grandmother all lived/live in Lancaster County, PA. Zone 6a/b.

Still haven't gotten the info on growth habit, etc. But will update when I do.

Aww, now you're making progress and narrowing it down. If i were you, I'd take this question to the Antique Rose forum since you now know it has to be an old rose. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/antique-roses

You'll have a better chance there of someone recognizing your very pretty rose. Good luck.

Is the rows in the picture in your possession? If so how big are those flowers? Do they have any Do they have scent? Would you say the colour in the photo is true to life? I'm wondering if this is some sort of a polyantha of the Orleans variety if the flowers are small.

This Rose is not in my possession. It's in my sister's garden in PA and I am in South Carolina.

More photos to follow but my sister says the flowers are about 2 1/2 inches.

Ok. Probably not one of the Orleans polys then. I'm so interested in this rose. Definitely cross post to the Antique Forum.

I'd want a better look at the leaves before making a pronouncement, but the spacing of the flowers makes me think polyantha or hybrid musk. Look up Mrs. R. M. Finch for an example of a 'large flowered' poly.

Seven sisters?

You may want to try the HelpMeFind site and ask the question there as well.

HelpMeFind

You can also search their data base with the pertinent information and see what comes up.

It is a really lovely rose! So delicate! I love it's habit. I really hope you are able to discover which rose it is, but if you don't, you can always rename it with your Grandmother's name.

Its something from the Polyantha or Hybrid Musk class. Something akin to 'Verdun'.

Okay so I thought I posted these photos yesterday but apparently they didn't post with our sketchy internet so I will try again. And by the way thank you everyone for your suggestions I haven't had time to research them but I definitely will!

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This forum never fails to remind me how little I know. Paul, what is there about the leaves, canes, and buds that tell you this rose is a polyantha or hybrid musk? I have roses in both categories, but I would not be able to identify them that way.

I'd add early floribunda to that list.

An early Floribunda is also a possibility, if the blooms are indeed 2.5" across. (I'm betting they're not actually that large)

@flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA The upright, "held high" form of the bloom panicle, slender bud style, and number of buds (and spacing) on the stem all say Polyantha to me. Or Hybrid Musk: like 'Trier' or 'Marie Pavie'. The delicate foliage is consistent with these classes also.