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I gathered this last year, in readiness for my new property. Both the Armeria maritima (Thrift) and Plantago coronopus (Buck's-horn Plantain) have grown well, but something else has popped up from within the middle.

Any ideas?

The first to appear -

and now a second one -

TIA

Fof

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  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Perhaps a Papaver such as P. somniferum or other sp.?

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Peren. Agreed the 'nodding' bud is reminiscent of Papaver, but I don't think it is.

    Looking at the pic again, I noticed a leaf that was a bit different from the Plantago.


    Just nipped out and had a rummage around in the Plantago foliage, and, yes, there is another plant hidden away.

    I exposed this leaf. Much hairier than the Plantago, with very prominant hairs along the mid-rib and warty.

    Back to the books.

    Fof

  • 5 years ago

    it reminds me of Plantago coronopus


    only admired it once at a friends place, and read about it


    the seed heads and general foliage fit very well

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked linaria_gw
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, linaria.

    Who didn't read the post? :-))))

    Yes it is P. coronopus, but there is something else growing up from within the depths of it.

  • 5 years ago

    Yep, definitely two separate plants. My guess is the non-plantain is something in the Asteraceae like a Hieracium. What was the source of the plant?


    P.s. when you say ’gathered’ I'm a bit worried you mean from the wild. Please tell me I‘m wrong.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 5 years ago

    The pubescent bud and leaves in the 3rd pic look like maybe Hedypnois rhagadioloides, but the smooth bud and stem in the second photo look different. Maybe there's 4 plants.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 5 years ago

    Jay. Thanks. That is an interesting observation. I've just had a really close look and I can say that the bud in Pics 2 & 3 appear to be the same, but the stem in Pic 2 does have a few hairs, but nothing like the hirsute stem in Pic 3.

    I don't think Hedypnois rhagadioloides is a candidate, as I can find no mention of it being found in UK.

    Only time will tell.


    Floral. I think I will just accept Hieracium agg. at this point in time and see what it develops into. Holy Moses. A genus I have no desire to even attempt to do an ID. I did break a couple of the leaves but there didn't appear to have a milky sap. It is only a little (young?) plant, though.

    As to provenance, I can't recall exactly, but somewhere on the N coast of West Cornwall. Yes I did gather from the wild, but I should have said rescued. It was growing on the top of a Cornish hedge that somebody, probably driving a lorry, had decided was in his way and had attempted to move it. This little group was on a part that was still standing - just.

    So yes. I plead guilty but with mitigating circumstances.

  • 5 years ago

    OK. Just checking😉

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
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