Blueberry Muffin's parentage is Francis Williams x Fall Bouquet, so I'm guessing you were looking at the progeny section for Francis Williams. My best guess would be Parent Plant, but I'm not certain.

Since the lingo is "PP x Fall Bouquet, could the PP stand for "Paisley Print"?

I believe that PP would be pod parent.

Well sometimes the PP is used as the second plant in the cross so then it would be pollen parent. I'm not sure what it stands for, but it is used to indicate the plant in the database you are looking at. For example, you were looking at the database entry for Frances Williams. In the progeny section it lists Blueberry Muffin = PP x 'Fall Bouquet'. PP is just the placeholder for the Hosta entry you are looking at. In this case that is Frances Williams. Could be Pictured Plant, posted plant, parent plant . . .

OP means open pollinated, which means mother nature did the pollinating and they don't know which plant is the other parent.

bkay

it is most likely pod parent .... but i have no idea where i learned it .... maybe as far bsck as the schmid tome????

but read the INFO comments here ... omg.. lol ..

https://www.myhostas.be/db/view/Blueberry+Muffin

now.. why the link has different info than the OP suggests is weird .. and OP is original poster.. before i confuse any of you .. or bill.. lol ...

ken

Looks like plant parent. If you look at the progeny of a particular hostas, it will show PP x the other hosta that the plant parent was crossed with to arrive at the new progeny. Blue Fog is listed as a progeny of Blueberry Muffin. its background is a cross of Allegan Fog and Blueberry Muffin (pp).

Thanks to everyone that responded. I did look under terms in the HL but PP was not there so I had to ask……..you know, inquiring minds want to know and all that……. :-)

debra

I like this article for some terminology.

https://www.delvalhosta.org/hosta-lingo

Thanks utog. Believe it or not I have bookmarked this page. :-)

debra

wonder where gary is.. i bet he could confuse us more.. lol ...

PP as plant parent.. makes no logical sense to me.... its like you are either lazy in your record keeping... or you are hiding the dna background .... for god knows what reason ... and that was a thing back in the day ... had to protect that million dollars you were going to make with the new hosta you developed ... yeah.. that never happened ....

i did note when looking it up the other day... PP was used on either side of the 'X' ...

and i have some vague recollection.. there is a rule for which is supposed to be listed first.. pod or pollen parent ...

aw.. who cares.. some of these breeders are worse than the nomenclature police ... lol.. at least we dont have to worry about that .. unless they decide that they arent hosta anymore ....

ken

I suspect that the meaning may depend on where it is used in the statement, makes it all the more confusing. If we assume for the moment that the progeny formula is X - Y than if PP is used in the X position it would be pod parent, in the Y position it would be pollen parent. Seeing it comes from the listings In Hugo's database I'll check with him....

Pieter

Thank you Pieter.

tj