A photo sure would help.

I don’t know how you will make 102 inches of valance cover 108 inches of window with the rod return of a total of 10 inches.

Post a photo of what you have now. This might be an opportunity to forgo the valance and just use the drapery panels for a cleaner, more updated look.

I have a super wide slider. I got a valance cutom made by JC Penny and am very happy with it. It'll be worth it for you. It's in my living room and it's the first thing people see when they come in and I look at it all day because I spend the most of my time in the living room. They didn't do the curtain and sheer. Someone else did it - that's why it's a slightly different color.

Thanks. I already have the cloth for the valance. So are you saying to have someone custom make the valance form that goes underneath the valance? Is that very expensive? Also, I don’t have many stores in my area. Would I need to have someone come out and measure my window?

I'm sorry - I forgot you already had the fabric. I don't remeber how much mine was. You could call and ask if they could do that with your fabric. They did come out and measure my window.

Okay, thanks. So here’s a photos of the drapes that I have and the existing rod. And a photo of one of the 52-inch valances that I want to hang. I have two of them. I realize that will only cover 104 inches of the 108 inches of the window, so maybe I should get a third valance? Just trying to figure out how to hang these.

I prefer the panels alone without the valance. iIf you insist, one way would be to use a double curtain rod. As you can see, a double rod will take care of your projection issue.

The J C Penny valance has been done correctly plenty of batting or foam under the fabric I have seen too many valances that do NOT have enough fluff under the fabric this valance has been done correctly

No valance. I like the panels.

I agree the valance is not a good idea .

You already have what is referred to as a decorative rod. It was meant to not be covered up. It was intended to be a design feature. i used to be in that business and I think that I recognize that old Kirsch rod.

You gave a photo of a finished valance but you say that you have fabric to make them. Which is it?

That valance has a rod pocket and is intended to be gathered, although the bottom ruffle looks to be quite full. You will usually need at least one and half to two, or even, three times the width of the curtain rod for fullness.

That cornice valance that you asked about is custom made with your fabric.

It used to be that Kirsch made rods that had returns of about 6 inches or so that could wrap around traverse rods. i know that the Continental rods had extended returns that you could buy.

Your drapery does not seem to be mounted onto the rod correctly. Your lining is turning to the outside and I dont see it returning to the wall on the side. Does it butt into a corner? It is hard to tell.

You already have a nice pleated shade under so you dont really need for it to function. You could regroup your thoughts and take it all down and put up only a pocket rod for that frilly valance.

Those drapes remind me of the kind that I used to sell at Penneys.

Did you make that valance? You said that you had fabric, but you offer a photo of a finsihed valance.

I agree with an above poster that you already have a full enough treatment going on in that window.

The valance that you seek is frilly, while the drapery panels are of a different nature. I agree that one or the other is a better fit, but not both. Maybe just update the rod with a double rod one as suggested if you really want both. If you can find one.

Traverse rods and pinch pleats are not as popular as they once were and that might be why you are not finding a good selection of them left on the market. The trend has been towards lighter treatments and maybe somewhat more casual.

Penneys used to carry a full selection of rods. That was years ago and sure that most of that has changed since.

It looks like Kirsch is stil in business and I see the extra return length rods are still being offered. Have you searched for Kirsch rods?

Dont ask sales people in the big box stores for help with such. There is no need for them to know anythng about drapery rods, and they dont'.

Got a thing for pink? So does my daughter in law and my little granddaugher. They are a world of pink.

Thanks. Just to clarify, I didn't make the valance. I have two pre-made valances (52 inches each). I got them to match a comforter set that I bought. And yes, I do love pink!

I do think that I got the drapes at Penny's, probably 25 years ago. I do agree that the gold rod is nice and I am hesitant to cover it up. So if I had the drapes AND the valance, you think it would be too "busy"?

What is a traverse rod? Is that the gold rod that I have now? Hmm, I never realized that my drapery might not be mounted onto the rod correctly. The movers put that up when I moved in, so who knows. I do like having the blackout backing in addition to the shades underneath, though, because otherwise it's not dark enough to keep all of the light out.

If I were to get a Kirch rod, what do you mean by "extra length"? Is that the projection from the wall or the actual length of the rod going across?

Thanks to everyone for all of your feedback. Maybe I will just forego the valance. I am hesitant to cover up the gold rod, and it certainly has been beyond difficult to try to find a rod that might go around the existing one.

One last question: I do see that Kirch makes something called "curtain rod extenders." Do those work well? Would I be able to use extenders with a regular rod, instead of getting a double rod? Or if I decide to use the valance, is a double rod my best bet?

It will just look fussy and complicated with the valance, whether you use a traverse rod, a double rod, or two separate rods. Extenders just move a regular rod further out from the wall. Leave the drapes on the current rod and donate the valances.

I'm sorry I would lose the valance, it looks extremely dated. The JC Penney one is actually a cornice, which is upholstered, not a valance.

The valance looks a bit fussy and doesn't really work with your more tailored drapes. They might work in a bath or powder room. I suggest you replace the blackout backing with blackout inside mount window shades. You do have a traverse style rod; one slotted for the mechanism that moves the drapery inside the rod.

Yes, I did recognize those pinch pleats from Pennys! I knew it! We sold tons of them at Pennys back in the 90s. And, that pink was popular back then.

You dont need a valance with that decorative traverse rod. It would be far too busy.

Are you saying that the movers put up the curtain rod for you? Or put up the curtains? I have never heard of that kind of service from a moving company. Maybe an extra service?

Take a check on it. The lining should not be facing out and they need to hook back into the brackett at the sides, the wrap around. Also, it is not obvious if the rod is mounted so that it extends a measure beyoud the width of the window. Maybe it does, but is it not obvious.

There is a "stack back' measure to the fullness of your panel. That is the number of inches that they occupy on the rod when they are stacked back to the open position. If you positon your rod to extend past the window, the panel will stack on the wall, not in the window, thus giving you a truely open window without part of it being used to stack the panel in.

So, you dont have fabric, you have bought valances?

Yes, a brackett extender will increase the depth. It is longer than a regular brackett.

You probably need to decide if you want the panels or the valance. Just the valance seems like it would have an impact. If you want to do both, you will need a traverse with a pocket rod, a double rod.

I have to agree that it looks quite dated. But the same can be said for some of the things that I hold dear, too . So, I do understand. That rod used to come in a pearl finish, too . I remember both those curtains and those rods from the 90s.

Colors of the "southwest" were popular at the time. That would have included teal and tourqoise. And, that image of the howling wolf was everywhere!

I agree that the valance would just be too much with the drapes, and the drapes do appear to not be installed correctly. Also, the 2nd picture showing the valance also shows the drapes near the floor...they appear to be 2-3 (or more) inches too short. I believe they should just graze the floor, but I could be wrong. The rod appears to be close to the ceiling, too. If it was lowered a bit, the drapes would not be too short.

If I remember correctly, the standard length of those panels was 84" and I think that they came in a 62" length and maybe a longer one, too. It has been many years ago .

Most rods are mounted just a few inches above the window. If that were the case here, the panel would be too long. Being a bit high off of the floor is not a deal breaker. Perhaps the ceiling is low? if the panel is 84" standard length, that seems to be about the height of the ceiling since they reach top to bottom.

If you do find a way to use your valances you are going to need more of them.