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Planning Daylily Bed

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

I'm tired of deer eating all my daylily buds, and I've got a 4' square sun bed in my fenced garden thats being under utilized, so I want to make it a daylily bed! I need help picking out the daylilies for it!

About the bed:

It's technically a raised bed, but it's only a few inches above regular grade and there's no bottom to the bed, so it's more like a normal garden bed just with wood edging. The neighboring beds have blueberry bushes and some bulbs, except the opposite corner, which is a shade bed and a matter for another post.

This bed was once an herb bed, but it got invaded by blackberries and only has some naturalizing oregano left for herbs; we've moved most of our herb gardening to pots closer to the house. We'll be pulling out the weeds and blackberries from this bed. The oregano might get to stay ... it'll definitely still be in the path, so it'll probably move back in if it is removed; no need to worry about itin the plan either way.

What's already in the plan:

I've got White Tie Affair elsewhere, and love them, so we're thinking of getting some more for this bed. They're short, so we're thinking they could go towards the edge:



(Existing plants would stay where they are; we'd be buying more. Similar alternatives will be considered.)

I'm considering moving my Peach Serenade to this bed so it won't get eaten every year, since it takes its sweet time blooming:

(I'll post a new picture when it blooms ...)



What else?

I think I could probably still have another 1-3 varieties in the bed.

I was thinking of making a daytrip to Tranquil Lake Nursery, so that's kindof my starting point for selection, but I'm open to other varieties, too. (I don't think they're selling White Tie Affair, yet, but I can get those from where I got the ones I have if that's what I'm getting.)

Polychromes, ruffled/toothed varieties, and fragrants would be of special interest to me. I have a soft spot for apricoty colored flowers.

I'm interested in potentially trying to cross breed some, too (nothing serious, but for fun), though I don't really know what I'm doing beyond rubbing pollen from one into the pistil of another, so diploid vs tet would be a lesser factor. I can bring pollen from elsewhere in the yard, too.

I'm open to companion plants, as well, like the blackberry lily that hangs out with my White Ties (nice height interest ...), though blackberry lilies don't seem to be deer candy, so they don't need the same protection.

How can you all help?

Recommend some daylilies for me and how they might fit best in a best? Any awesome combos you just love?

Thanks!!!

Comments (18)

  • 5 years ago

    Is ”4 feet square” the same as 4 sq ft? if do, that's 2’ x2’ which is enough for one clump of daylilies.

  • 5 years ago
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    No, 4' sides ... 16sqft. I should have stated that more clearly.

  • 5 years ago

    Tranquil Lake has mostly older cultivars, and I grow mostly new ones so I can't help you with any names. Apricot and peach flowers look great with blue balloon flowers.


    Debra

    BlueberryBundtcake - 6a/5b MA thanked shive
  • 5 years ago

    I have been to tranquil lake before ... though its been a while; last time we came home with mostly iris. I have been avoiding going before I have the spot ready because I know I'll want to bring everything home ... so I've been oogling online. I'll have to peak at TomCat, too ... it could be part of the same daytrip. I'll take a look at your pix!


    Any awesome new cultivars I should be aware of? Any benefits between newer and older cultivars? Is this oldie but goodie vs bred to be better?

    We used to have balloon flowers ... they are nice! I think ours just petered out after about 10 years, but I think that might be normal.

  • 5 years ago

    There are literally thousands of newer daylilies hybridized in the past 25 years that are fantastic performers. I can't recommend just three or four. I would say daylilies hybridized since the mid-90s have a lot more buds, so they bloom for a longer time. Many also rebloom. If you're in MA, you may not get rebloom, but here in Tennessee I get a lot. The older daylilies are tough as nails, but they only bloom for about three weeks.


    Debra

    BlueberryBundtcake - 6a/5b MA thanked shive
  • 5 years ago

    We get a touch of rebloom on stella d'oro; I don't think I have any other rebloomers ...

    Elsewhere in the yard, we have: mystery heirloom yellow that came with the house (finishing blooming - same timing as ditch lilies), mystery multicolor pack I picked up for a song at home depot (pink and purple, almost blooming), mystery yellow from a garden sale (blooming now), Sandra Elizabeth (which seems to bloom pretty late, barely has buds), Chicago Red Apache (budding now), Black-eyed Stella (blooms early with stella d'oro), White Tie Affair (blooming all this month), Don Stevens (would be blooming same as White Tie if not eaten), Jo Janet (budding), Peach Serenade (blooming now), and Raspberry Pixie, which I can never remember when it blooms and either doesn't bloom, gets eaten, or gets missed half the time.

  • 5 years ago

    I’m not much help as I only own about five or six types, but Janice Brown is my favorite. She blooms well, clump grows well, and her color blends well with gentle yellows, which you think would not be the case.

    BlueberryBundtcake - 6a/5b MA thanked deanna in ME Barely zone 6a, more like 5b
  • 5 years ago

    So with the stake tepee working pretty well, Peach Serenade has submitted the following petition to stay whereit is (centered in the kitchen window):


    I love this flower ... beautiful color, nice toothy edge, big flower ... Problem? I have no idea whete to get more! The nursery I got this one from has closed (and wasn't really consistent in what they carried anyways). Where can I get more if these, or what is a good substitute?

  • 5 years ago

    I can’t say enough about ’Buttered Popcorn’. it is a taller daylily and a gorgeous very rich bold orangey yellow. the color is one that goes with any other color in the garden, which can sometimes be tough when it comes to daylilies. I do not find the color to clash with anything. Very strong scapes. I have many in my garden and they grow to a very nice, large size clump. After about 6 years they each have about 15 scapes and each scape has 12-15 buds. Some rebloom. That’s quite a lot of flower power from one daylily.

    BlueberryBundtcake - 6a/5b MA thanked Thyme2dig NH Zone 5
  • 5 years ago

    @Barrheadlass Thanks for the tip on TomCat Daylilies! I ended up getting out there and getting a few:


    (That's the oregano in the front corner ... and middle of the edge ... not really a weed, but not critical either.)

    This is the one facing away from the picture (towards the gate)


    And one more that went to a different bed:

    Pink Pajamas:

    It's flower (came off in transfer):


  • 5 years ago

    We're thinking we could probably add White Tie Affair and Stella D'oro divisions to the left corners. Opinions one which would be better where? White Ties haven't been purchased, yet, so could be something else. Stella D'oros need to be divided, but we could potentially find other homes for the divisions. The new creamy yellow one would tolerate division in the fall.

  • 5 years ago

    I love day lilies. I have a very tall yellow blooming now that is putting on a good show with multiple stems and blossoms. Fortunately it's at the end of a narrow border because it dominates the shorter perennials. I planted some day lilies on the north side of two beds since that is the view we have from our south facing windows but the lily flowers turn toward the sun so we don't see a good show. They are shadowed by taller clump of shasta daisies. Have fun searching for new favorites.

  • 5 years ago

    Blueberry Bundtcake . I think to satisfy your own desires you need to decide many things. You will need to decide if you want , ruffled frilly bagels types , or very tailored blooms . Do you want short or tall , Spider varieties , or Unusual forms. There is so much to choose from. Then there is color. You will want to consider the height , there are daylilies that range from 6 inches to 60 inches tall. Do you want them all to bloom at the same time , or spanning a fair length of time , early , early mid , mid season, Mid late and late blooming daylilies are available . Do you prefer Diploids or Tetraploids? Double or single blooms . Unusual blooms that look like none of the others . Lots to think about .




    I now grow about 1500 different registered varieties as well as hundreds of seedlings. My preference is tall and in your face dayliles . When I started collecting daylilies I did not even know that they came in different heights That is how much of a newb I was. I am sure if you do some research you will find there are many many daylilies that will fit your particular criteria

    Have fun !

  • 5 years ago
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    Wow, Signet…1500 varieties! And I thought my hundred plus was a lot. I deadhead mine every single day, though…cannot believe you can. I have always bought whatever

    caught my eye, and seem to have a lot of pink ruffled types. Prairie, so glad you made it to

    Tom Cat! i wish I had known…i live only about 15 minutes from there.

  • 5 years ago

    You will need to decide if you want , ruffled frilly bagels types , or very tailored blooms.

    Love ruffled/toothed edges ... but not a hard requirement.

    Do you want short or tall , Spider varieties , or Unusual forms.

    Not big on spiders, mixed heights works well in a square bed (taller in the middle, shorter on perimeter).

    Then there is color.

    I gravitate towards peach, apricot, cream, and pink. Love yellow, too. Reds and purples tend to stick out, but we do have some by the stone wall to the east.

    I have various colors around the yard. Big garden starts purple with iris and then goes to mostly yellow, orange, and white, with some pink of the phlox don't get eaten. East side garden is a mix (yellow coreopsis, burgundy/gold iris, purple iris, white iris, bleeding hearts, purpley heuchera, hosta, tiger lilies, yellow daylilies, Chicago Red Apache, Raspberry Pixie, mixed daylilies). Back garden is pinks and purples (that's where Pink Pajamas went). The fenced garden this bed is in is mostly fruit plants - blueberries in three beds, blackberries kind-of scattered. West side bed is orange and peach on one stretch, orange and yellow for a bit, then mixing in white hydrangeas, then transitioning to white and pink when it switches to phlox and a beauty bush.

    You will want to consider the height , there are daylilies that range from 6 inches to 60 inches tall.

    White Tie affair is probably about 8"-10" tall, and we keep going back for more of them. Jo Janet, Don Stevens, and some of the yellows are probably about 30"-48", and they're also great if I can keep the deer away. I don't think I want a daylily as tall as I am, so no to 60" unless that's just an occasional super spike.

    Do you want them all to bloom at the same time , or spanning a fair length of time , early , early mid , mid season, Mid late and late blooming daylilies are available .

    We have a mix, starting with Stella D'oro and Black-eyed Stella, then followed by Don Stevens, White Tie Affair, and the yellow and orange (I think the new Pink Pajamas is in that group), then more yellows and the Jo Janets, and Chicago Apache and Sandra Elizabeth are late. My other new ones seem to be similar to Jo Janet in the mid-late group.

    Do you prefer Diploids or Tetraploids? Double or single blooms . Unusual blooms that look like none of the others

    I said before I don't have much preference, but apparently I have picked almost all tets.

    I tend to prefer singles over doubles. Doubles sometimes have a bit much going on for my preferences.. I appreciate them, but pick singles for my garden. Much like doubles and spiders, pinched and twisted petals aren't my preference, which I think covers most of the unusuals.

  • 4 years ago

    So one of my new ones decided to rebloom ... no idea if it will keep with that trend, but it's a nice treat this year at least:



  • 4 years ago

    Lovely treat indeed!