Love those bush shots !! Your roses are very healthy with lots of blooms. Agree that Japanese Beetles leave the dark-red roses with zillion petals alone. Red with zillion petals: Rouge Royal, W.S. 2000, Munstead Wood, the Dark lady, Tess of d'Ubervilles, the Squire, Wenlock, Tradescant and Barcelona ... never see Japanese Beetles on them. Below is 11th-year-own-root W.S. 2000 in 4 hrs. of sun:

Below is the Squire, 7th-year own-root:

Below is 4th-year-own-root Tess of d'Ubervilles in 4 hours of sun:

Below is 7th-year-own root Munstead Wood, it's a continuous bloomer and gives me cut-blooms twice a week. Nearby rose park's Munstead Wood (grafted-on-Dr.Huey) was a black-spot fest so I bought mine as own root and love its health and continuous blooming.

Strawchicago,

Beautiful! I saw a William Shakespeare 2000 at High Country Roses one time and wanted to buy it but Matt said he was growing it for someone as a special order and didn't have them generally for sale. You said it was 11th year. Does that mean it isn't cane hardy for you?

Also Munstead Wood looks super pretty. Which off all the ones you posted has the best bush shape and is the most cane hardy? You've seen my rock bed rose garden which shows off the bush shape in contrast to the rocks so it is nice to get ones that are full looking.

Thanks!

‘My much maligned (by me) Lady in Red is redeeming itself’.

Her pronoun is now herself.

W.S. 2000 has the best bush-shape but it's always tiny like a mini-rose !! It's a continuous bloomer and I cut it daily for the vase, so it's always short. Below pic. was taken this July 21 as 11th-year-own-root. It has about 1 foot of green cane after each winter:

W.S. 2000 blooms are big, so all the energy goes toward making blooms, rather than growing tall. Below is large W.S. bloom above a smaller Tess of d'Urberville bloom. Pic. taken this July 28:

I would nominate The Dark Lady and The Squire as the most cane-hardy after zone 5 winter. Below is bush-shot of The Dark lady (drought tolerant due to Rugosa genetics), but W.S. 2000 is a water-hog (best for high rain and partial shade). Below 7th-year own-root Dark Lady is in partial shade but it pumps out blooms weekly:

The Dark Lady as own-root stays short since all the energy goes to making gigantic blooms at 4" across. Left is W.S. bloom and right is The Dark Lady. Pink is Radio Times. Pic. taken last October 2020.

Quadra is a great hardy red climber too, mmmm. Maybe madgallica has great photos. High Country roses sells it. Z3 at least hardy.

Sheila, thanks! Quadra is on my list if I have a place open up. Any idea how big it gets in zone 5?

Not sure. It survived for me in Alaska z 3, so it should be much larger for you. Madgallica's is huge out East.

4M, Quadra throws out canes that reach a steady four feet here; some years it is a foot or so shorter, some years it is a foot or so taller. I have it planted in an afternoon shady spot, in unamended clay soil. I give it no winter protection, and it usually has several live canes above ground in the spring. A wet rainy winter seems to slow it down more than just a steadily cold and snowy winter. It has two beautiful flushes (one in the spring and one in the fall) each year. Beautiful and dependable!

Thanks!

Rosesmi5a, Does it have some flowers in between the flushes or just the two flushes?

It will have a few here and there, but as soon as the heat comes, it slows way down. This year's long heat spells have kept it very quiet.

Thanks rosesmi!

Lady in Red seems to be flourishing in the heat and providing a bright spot in the Japanese Beetle munched rose bed so it doesn't look like Quadra would be a good replacement.

We can't go outside anymore. The air is too bad. It has been bad for over a month. This is how I enjoy my roses now. Through the window screen.

Not that I'm encouraging the Lady in Red to be shovel pruned, but if you are considering adding a red rose, take a look at 'Miracle on the Hudson'. I had read about how disease free it was (true!), how hardy it was (crown hardy to zone 3b!), and how steadily blooming it was (also true). But, I was unprepared for the flower's color and substance. The color is a deep deep red that shades to the darkest red imaginable on the edges. The shading is exquisite and really stands out in the garden. Think rich silk velvet. Photos do NOT capture the richness of the color or shading. The substance is also exceptional -- each flower stands crisply for display, no limp petals here! It stays about 2.5 feet tall here, receives no winter protection or supplemental water in the summer here in Michigan. No fragrance, and I have never cut the flowers for inside display. However, the visual impact in the garden is worthy of having a bed of them!

https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=79799&tab=1

Cynthia,

Any full bush pictures of your Florentina?

Thanks!

Mmmm - Your Lady in Red is REALLY beautiful!!! What a bloomer!

Straw - Oh my goodness!!! I love your WS2000 and The Dark Lady!!!! :) :)