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Help needed - kitchen facelift desired

Want to give this 1990's kitchen a facelift. Thinking of painting the cabinets and switching the countertop to something similar to the photo below without having to redo the floor. Sorry the photos seem to have a yellow hue





This is not my kitchen, like the "look" of the countertop


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  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    sorry, but I think that floor is really blah and it really won't go with that type of countertop. it's cool toned, bright and modern whereas the floor is very warm and rustic.

    from what I understand, having cabinets painted properly is crazy expensive. price it out, but you might be better off getting a new floor, and then choosing any countertop you want. the cabinets are pretty as is.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree the floor is blah but I rather put the investment for replacing the tile floor into the very blah master bathroom. I do appreciate your feedback though

  • 5 years ago

    cleaning up everything else, and not addressing the floor defeats the purpose. Even if you have to do it in stages. Start with the floor.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I'm going to agree that the floor is the biggest issue. You are going to spend a lot of money painting the cabinets and replacing the counter top. I'd wait until I could do the entire project at the same time.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    First, try switching your bulbs. you say you have a yellow hue? try a 3500-4000K bulbs. I promeise it will whiten up everything.

    do the floors go everywhere? It is expensive to redo them, but demo is going to be a nice chunk of that bill. if you could do it yourselves, you could save about 3K. Redoing everything but those floors is only going to make your floors look worse.

    When I painted my cabs, I really wavered on redoing the slate tile. but I did, and so glad I spend the extra money.





    have you gotten estimates on cab painting? you're looking at 5-8K for a professionally done job. if you get a quote for 2500, it's going to look, and last, like crappola. (all of mine were painted but it was only another 2K to completely reface the doors and drawers, so I chose that option)


    Countertops another 4-6K. If you want that Cambria Brittanica like your pic, figure on 6K.

    bronsonl_741089242 thanked Beth H. :
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Beth your kitchen looks amazing. As for the light bulbs I think it was just done early morning that resulted in the yellow hue but will have a look. Living in FL, we do get a lot of natural sunlight which helps brighten everything up.

  • 5 years ago

    It’s worth your time to get quotes on redoing the floors and refacing the kitchen. Plus a professional cabinet painting job. Upgrading to the countertop of your dreams and painted cabinets won’t work with the tile floor. If you’re handy, you can paint the floor in the kitchen but biting the bullet and spending the money to do your kitchen “once and do it right” is worth it.

    Easier to cut corners in a bedroom re-do. I promise you’ll get help with that project that will save you money, so go for the gold with the kitchen. My first sales job was with the first refacing company and we always worried that a new kitchen and countertop will make old floors look much worse. That will definitely happen here.

    Your countertop choice is modern and quite lovely. It needs the right “neighbors”.

    bronsonl_741089242 thanked RedRyder
  • 5 years ago

    Floors first and light bulbs and you may find the rest is AOk with you

  • 5 years ago

    And I guarantee you spend more time in your kitchen then yur master bath ..

  • 5 years ago

    FWIW, I recently gave my bathroom a quick facelift by replacing the thing I hated the most: the granite countertop. I skipped the floor because it's just ok, and wanted to see if I could live with it. turns out I can't. the subtle warm tones do not work with my overall vision, and it bugs me every single day. my point is, new countertops will not make a blah floor look better.

    if you price out cabinets and still want to paint them, then I think butcher block counters could look really good in there.

  • 5 years ago

    I dont think your tile flooring is horrible and new quartz counters would go a long way to update the look of your kitchen. I would also leave the cabinets as is, they look like a nice neutral medium finish on my screen. There are some quartz options that have a little warmth to them. In my kitchen i am planning on going with LG Vitera Lumina which is a white with warm gray veins, apparently it was designed to go with stained cabinets.

    bronsonl_741089242 thanked Mojave
  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Beth's kitchen is an awesome example of what can be done to renovate a kitchen without changing the layout or the cabinets. Incredible transformation!!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    IMO first you need to really love the layout of your kitchen before spnding huge $$$ on painting the cabinets. Which BTW in your case are dated and not enough drawers for ease of use at all.The flooring drives every decision you will make and IMO that counter is not good with those floors.A professional paint job will cost almost as much as new cabinets, the new counter is IMO not worth the money until you change the floors Yes to changing the lighting to LED 4000K before doing anything .Quartz IMO is just plastic , if you awant a new counter start looking at polished granite . IMO if you are budgeting 16K for this I would wait and do all new . You did not answer if the floors are everywhere or just the kitchen but IMO a kitchen floor would be more imporatant than a bathroom floor.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi Patricia, thank you for your advice. The floors are a combo of wood (bamboo) and tile with carpet in 3/4 bedroom's as one was converted to an office. While I would love to do every room with the same flooring pulling up ceramic is not only a huge mess, but a huge undertaking. While I have a small budget I wanted to do something with the kitchen as I do not have $25-$40k to redo the whole thing. It appears I'm out of luck and need to either table the idea or go back to redoing the master bathroom which is equally outdated and since my home office is off of that room, I look at it day in and day out. Again, my thought was doing what is possible on a small budget. Appreciate your inputs as you appear to be a consultant.

  • 5 years ago

    Don’t give up on this kitchen! All it needs is a little facelift. Updated hardware and new countertops. I don’t hate your floor, but one of those Ruggable area rugs would go along way toward lightening it up — and you can toss those in the washer.


    Patricia has a deep, oft spoken aversion to quartz, but most folks here like if not love it. I hope never to have granite again, but I like Corian, which some despise. Different strokes and all that. For low maintenance and reasonable cost, I would suggest LG Clarino because it reads warm like your floor. I would retrofit the sink base with a short apron Kohler Whitehaven farm sink, but that might be a budget buster. There are many great sink options at half the price, including stainless apron sinks.


    Above all, do not paint your cabinets, and demo that dated, bi-level bar. It is gonna be gorgeous.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I agree with @SeattleMCM. I do think a countertop change could potentially be more effective, both aesthetically and cost wise - versus painting the cabinets.

    Another option could be to just change the backsplash.

    I used a tile visualizer, and the visualizer tool tiled to the ceiling, as well as tiled the adjoining room walls - which would not be my approach. :) But the visuals hopefully give you the general idea.

    I thought the backsplash tile that is pictured here, directly below, could also be really interesting with your current wall color.




    I think the splash, in pic directly above, could be a bit warmer; and in real life, it is. :) The tool is making the tile look whiter than it actually is.

    So the idea is, you can try just changing the backsplash first. You could even experiment with some peel and stick tiles. Smart Tiles is one company. Home Depot carries Smart Tiles, as well as other peel and stick options.

    And in any case, consider bringing in some under cabinet lighting, if it is not there. That alone would make a big difference.

    A lot of the advice that has been given, that is geared toward keeping the existing cabinets, is based on the understanding that - from a design standpoint - wood for cabinetry is very much en vogue right now - plus is classic. White cabinets are not going away; but they are not quite the panacea that they were. But if you want white cabinets, that is what you want. I think you would be better off looking into refacing, if you decide to go with white cabinets. You would still need to do something with the floor - unless you go with a wood/butcher block counter, similar in color to the current floor; then it could potentially work. The floor tile can also possibly be painted for a relatively inexpensive change. You can look into those options.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I agree with everyone who cautions against painting the cabinetry. It is expensive and would best be considered in conjunction with more sweeping changes to the finishes like the flooring. Wood cabinets are already making a comeback. If your floor isn't changing, something creamier than the white background of the countertop you showed as an inspiration would be a much better choice. Additionally, that inspiration countertop is too "dressy" for the more casual look of your tiles.

    A light quartz like Buttermilk from Caesarstone would be something to consider for example.



    A lighter overall wall colour in the background of the adjoining room would also go a long way to creating a fresh look. It is hard to see exactly what your current wall colour in that adjoining room, or to know what the flooring is in there, but if the kitchen tile stays, it must be considered for the palette in that room as well if you want it to look intentional.



  • 5 years ago

    You can totally paint your cabinets yourself if you spend the time researching, prepping and using appropriate paint. Of course you won't have a good result if you slap some latex wall paint on them and there will be a lot of work, but you can do it! Here's a great resource: https://abeautifulmess.com/whats-the-best-paint-for-kitchen-cabinets/ . As mentioned, replace the countertop with a solid quartz in a creamy color that coordinates with the floor. Update hardware. Check out some of the kitchens from the team at Bella Tucker online: https://bella-tucker.com/. They do a lot of makeovers of kitchens without changing layouts and instead paint, new countertops (always lowering the two-tiered counters to one) and at times a little bit of carpentry.

  • 5 years ago

    @User @freedomplace1 - I appreciate you thoughts very much. Not sure what tool @User is using but that is totally the bomb!


    The tile floor is throughout so much of the house, it is a major undertaking hence the desire to work with what I have somehow, someway. Further, I had bamboo installed in other adjoining rooms that had carpet. Our home is a very unique layout and I am not design savvy (obviously) which make it even more challenging.


    I can't seem to find a way to directly PM either of you, so if you are willing to contact me directly my personal email is lynn_bronson@yahoo - would love to bounce some other thoughts off you both.


  • 5 years ago

    I truly appreciate everyone's and don't dispute any of them. I put it out there to get better ideas from creative folks like yourself.

  • 5 years ago

    You can also paint the floor tile. I am considering that for two bathrooms that have a floor tile I don’t like. Since your tile runs throughout the house, you can just paint the portion in the kitchen. There are many resources out there on how to do that, which would give you the option to choose a white quartz countertop.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow thank you so much - had no idea :)

  • 5 years ago

    bronsonl_741089242 - I just realized I had the ability to receive messages turned off (I guess that's the default). you can PM me now if you want. I'm going to be out for the next few days.

    RE: painting your floors-- yes it can be done, but of course it's prone to chipping. it's an ok stopgap if you think you will redo the floors in a few years. it's a laborous smelly process though, you have to deeeeeeep clean them with some crazy chemicals. or you can hire somebody to do it, they'll have access to materials and techniques that will help it last longer than if you did it yourself. (plan on leaving the house for a few days though, the smell will be awful.)

    some people add stenciling, but that can be quite loud if you have a large area, so I suggest a solid color. I feel like matte will look better than gloss. it's gonna look a little plain, so you'll want to add rugs / runners to help break up the monotony and also to protect them.



  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    bronsonl_741089242 You are welcome. :) I sent some contact info.

    I mentioned at the end of my looong comment the possibility of painting the tile. As @SeattleMCM has detailed, it is a ’thing’ ... i.e. not necessarily a fun thing; but it is an option.

    However, since you have this flooring throughout other areas of the house, you may just want to work with the current floor, overall. As I mentioned, if you decide to go with white on cabinets, I think it could possibly work with the current floor, if you did a wood/butcher block counter, similar to floor color.



    The visual with the tile all over the walls was not really doing this backsplash tile justice, so I tried to clean it up a bit.