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Kitchen Island with sink: Slate or Soapstone?

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Hello! We have two salvaged countertop options for our kitchen island both with their own issues. The price was right so we're interested in using one of them and creating custom cabinetry for the bases. Just having a hard time choosing which counter to go with.

A few more details: The rest of the countertops will be boos butcher block and the cabinetry will all be unfitted-looking (similar to Plain English prep tables/islands and Devol). Both island countertops will have a flush butcher block extension at the end for about 2 feet extra workspace. The DW is a single drawer integrated unit. This is a 1930s fisherman's cottage, it's a little hodgepodge and we're embracing that!

Island #1:

35" x 65" black slate countertop with an existing cutout (was a cooktop). This island will require some fabrication to enlarge the cutout and a drop in sink. The current cutout is too deep to modify for an under mount sink. See image below for sink, DW, and stove location-- I like that the DW is close to where the dishes will be stored (to the right of the stove).



Island #2:

33" x 75" black soapstone countertop with existing under mount sink with hole for faucet and soap. This island won't require any fabrication (maybe a little sanding). See image for sink, DW, and stove location-- I am unsure about the DW being across from the stove and far from the cabinet the dishes are stored in but I do like the sink closer to the trash and further from the front door.



I'm open to all suggestions-- and Thank you!

Comments (36)

  • 4 years ago

    I’ve never had slate countertops, but put soapstone in our last house and I’ll never have anything else again. The ability to put anything down anywhere and the face that it is completely impervious are huge advantages. Plus, it’s beautiful!

    Ali thanked theotherjaye
  • 4 years ago

    Dishdrawer across from stove is awsome if you like to clean while you cook (or if you don't). Unlike a normal DW, it won't bang your shins or get in the way if you leave it open.


    I would go with the soapstone. Undermount sink wins. :)

    Ali thanked Fori
  • 4 years ago

    Had soapstone in last house 1890 Victorian with teak on part of the counters and marble on another . Antique windows for glass cabinets 4 ’ tall. So I understand the hodgepodge!!! Love soapstone and we used it hard for 14 yrs. was perfect when we moved. I had it in the sunroom as well and two reclaimed SS sinks as well.


    This 1920 house we just restored 2 yrs ago and have soapstone again and had a soapstone sink custom built. You will love soapstone. Maybe use the slate for an outdoor kitchen with a sink in it or for a potting shed

    Ali thanked User
  • PRO
    4 years ago

    "The current cutout is too deep to modify for an under mount sink."


    I'll be the judge of that please. What are the dimensions involved please?

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you all! So far this is very encouraging and I think soapstone wins. @User Love the idea of using the slate for an outdoor kitchen, thank you for suggesting it. I've had a little time today to play with the island in sketchup:



    I'll work out the proportions but I'm enjoying where this is going and feel less worried about the DW/stove issue.

  • 4 years ago

    @Ali would love to see pictures of the cottage! location? sounds so wonderful.

  • 4 years ago

    @Joseph Corlett, LLC sure thing! It's about 22 1/2" wide and 18 1/2" deep. I have not found an under mount sink ~19" deep but I'd like to hear your thoughts!

  • 4 years ago

    @User We're in northwestern Connecticut :] It's all torn to bits right now but I'll follow up with photos someday.

  • 4 years ago

    Gee...I hope yellow for the cabinets is in the plans. :)

  • 4 years ago

    @Fori Yep! Yellow island has been the plan, I like it with the black countertop!

  • 4 years ago
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    @Fori @Ali I love yellow! My kitchen is dark green walls with yellow accents! My ss island


  • 4 years ago
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    I would go with soapstone. My biggest regret is I didn't put my foot down and get soapstone instead of quartz. I like what I have, but green soapstone would have suited our 1910 home better.

    I did order a 48x12 piece as a shelf on the kitchen radiator and I love it!

    Ali thanked Sherry Brighton
  • 4 years ago

    @User Lovely-- and actually have green floors! A great combo :]

  • 4 years ago
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    Great idea @Sherry Brighton I bake bread would be nice and warm! we had to remove the radiator to get more room but hooked up a Myson hydronic toekick heater. works GREAT and really warms the kitchen.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Ali:


    How big is your sink base cabinet please?

  • 4 years ago

    Soapstone! ALL DAY LONG! No regrets!

    Ali thanked Therese N
  • 4 years ago

    Also - I got this sink. In the black stainless. It blends with the soapstone and is easy to take care of. They have under mount and drop in styles too. I’m just sharing the brand and finish.

    Terraza 33" L x 22" W Farmhouse Kitchen Sink
    https://www.wayfair.com/home-improvement/pdp/ruvati-terraza-33-l-x-22-w-farmhouse-kitchen-sink-ruvt1585.html

    Ali thanked Therese N
  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Ali:

    Depending on the size of your base cabinet, I'd suggest undermounting a top mount sink. This allows you to make the cutout larger and have your faucet on the sink deck.



  • 4 years ago

    @Joseph Corlett, LLC Got it! Thanks. Our sink cabinet can be whatever size we want, it's not set yet. With the deck underounted-- do you find that area behind the faucet hard to clean?

    @Therese N thanks! The black stainless looks great, I'll keep it in mind.

  • 4 years ago

    I anticipated that too, and had the fabricators create a splash to help me keep it cleaner. I took it all the way up to the sill. Our carpenter modified the trim to fit. Works beautifully.

    Ali thanked Therese N
  • 4 years ago

    A recessed faucet deck like JC posted is really nice and keeps the sink area much tidier. I have always liked that feature and have had it in many tiled countertops in the past but it is hard to find the right sink for a tile-in job these days or I'd have a tile counter now.


    (Managed it in a bathroom with a drop in sink tiled in though.)

  • 4 years ago

    I love soapstone, it classic and a great neutral. I chose Silestone soapstone for my countertops.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    "With the deck underounted-- do you find that area behind the faucet hard to clean?"


    No.

  • 4 years ago

    We just received the soapstone and do believe it is synthetic, sadly. We were told it was real, reclaimed from a high school-- but again, the price was right. We'll have to decide if we want to use it or some other option.


    @kculbers are you able to refinish your countertops if they chip or scratch?

  • 4 years ago

    I have had my Silestone counters a few years. No chips, no scratches, no t
    Regreshing needed!!

  • 4 years ago

    @Ali… what makes you think it is synthetic? can you share a picture?

  • 4 years ago

    @makmartell No veining, doesn't scratch with a fingernail, bubbled/poured texture on the bottom. It is very heavy and chips grey..but doesn't feel waxy. I'll post photos in the morning! We might be interested to use it if we can determine if it contains asbetos (it's an old lab table).

  • 4 years ago

    Interesting! will watch for pics tomorrow.

  • 4 years ago

    My DH is a lab scientist from the ’60’s. There are no soapstone lab tables. they are a myth. its a manmade poured epoxy resin. Im sorry its turned out to be a diappointment

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    Pretty sure our sink is made of that material. I picked it up back in the early 2000s as we were hunting at salvage places for items for the farmhouse we were building. I was told it was from a school lab. Poured expoxy resin sounds right. Mine has a smooth bottom and I'd need dynamite to chip it. I love it - it cleans up like a dream and nothing damages it. Here's a photo.


    Final Countertop and Backsplash · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    Barncatz: beautiful kitchen and sink!! You are the ultimate recycler!!

  • 4 years ago

    🙂 When I dragged it home, I thought it was maybe slate, and then DH pointed out a thin molding groove on the top edge. It was great getting confirmation from @User about the origins of our mystery sink.

  • 4 years ago

    @User Yep, it's a shame they advertised it as soapstone, I asked as many questions as I could before it was delivered but it was hard to tell from photos (they weren't great, I think the damage made it look real in the photos). He swore it was soapstone. We also didn't know it came out of a school until it was dropped off. So now we decide if we want to use it! It needs some TLC if we do want to use it:







    @barncatz yours looks amazing! Thank you for sharing. The under mount sink is definitely the same epoxy material.

  • 4 years ago
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    Ali- if it came out of a school and it is rather old, it may well be real soapstone.

    I am older than, well old. Way older than trailrunner's husband and we all scratched up our lab tables. All our laboratory tables were soapstone.

    I know that schools now buy a synthetic black product for their lab tables.

    I don't know what you have, if it is real or not, and if it is real soapstone if it was coated with something. After all, depending upon where it was used, it literally had blood and guts on it.

    And maybe even fetal pig.

    OK, now that you are picking yourself off the floor....

    So a coating making it impervious is not so bad.

    The question is, and what is important to your use of it in your kitchen, is it still impervious to acids and heat?

    You can see if there is a rough raw edge of it, and show a photo of the rough raw edge to a PRO like Joe Corlett here on Houzz, and also test it as suggested.

    Also, look at the underside of the counter, it would not have received the coating if one would have been applied. Test that too, the way you tested the top, and do it in good light. Try some lemon juice too, get a screeching hot pot and put it on both surfaces and see what happens, try a steel wool pad on both surfaces, try to oil both surfaces.

    Take lots of photos, make a notebook.

    I like the ones with the black and white marbled cardboard covers and the graph paper insides.

    Be a scientist!

    If you think it is really soapstone that had a coating applied, ask if the top surface can be sanded to remove that coating.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks @loobab! We're taking a close look at it to decide if we want to use it for what it is. I'm not too worried about what could have been on it, especially if we refinish it :] We don't have much to lose at this point..but I would prefer a natural material.