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Large, Disease-Free Climber with Good Repeat for Nashville

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I need recommendations for a disease-free (no spray) climbing rose with great repeat-flowering to be planted in full sun, clay soil, against a house wall. Exceptional health, good foliage coverage, and great repeat, and flowers that last well are most important to me as these will be trained against the front of the house.

I currently have the white Desdemona roses seen in the photo below in front of the house. I moved the Boscobel that were in front of the windows to a different location since I was struggling to keep them short enough. We are removing the junipers on the corners since they get cedar apple rust each year, so the large climbing roses would be the focal point to cover the corners of the house and should grow to a good size.



I've been looking at the following roses but have seen mixed feedback online, so I am looking for more site-specific recommendations from first-hand experience, not hearsay.

  • Iceberg - supposed to not perform well in humid weather?
  • Aloha (David Austin, not Kordes or other varieties)
  • The Generous Gardener - some say it doesn't repeat flower?
  • Wollerton Old Hall
  • Madame Alfred Carriere - not supposed to repeat well?
  • Mortimer Sackler
  • Claire Austin - I've had this one before on another property and it was very thorny and didn't repeat flower for me, but read others had good repeat

I am currently leaning toward Wollerton Old Hall or Mortimer Sackler. Which one reblooms best and gets large enough to make an impact?

Comments (12)

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Dianela, what a gorgeous rose pillar! Fantastic!

    Thank you for the recommendations! I am very hesitant with adding ramblers to the wall as I worry about being able to tie them in sufficiently. I have a good-sized rambler on a big trellis that leans against a wall, but its stems are so thin and flexible that it goes of over the place in more vertical areas without intense tying-in. How do you keep your rambler covering the pillar so nicely?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thank you. Ramblers do require some regular maintanence to stay tidy. I prune and re-tie this rose every late winter if I want it to stay like this. She is very flxible so I wrap it and tie with twine or garden tape.




    How are you planning on attaching the rose to your house? The Other rose i recomended, MAC would also likely get so large you need to do yearly maintenence. The Austins will stay smaller and easier to manage but will have more disease

  • 3 years ago

    Aloha sold at David Austins is not an Austin rose but a hybrid tea bread by someone else. I have not grown that specific rose but a hybrid tea from around 1949 does not sound like the best bet for a humid place like TN not matter what any site says. Hopefully someone who lives in an area with blackspot and grows it could give some better info.


    Do you like yellow or peach? Teasing georgia from David Austin and Bathsheba can be grown no spray here (I am only around 3 hours away from nashville so our areas are pretty much the same when it comes to disease presure) I hope others write you a lot of comments today. I wish you the best of luck with finding the perfect rose.

  • 3 years ago

    Dianela, thank you very much for the feedback regarding Aloha.


    I am planning to place horizontal wires every 18-24" as well as small loops where needed as the rose grows and I am shaping it.


    I did actually look at Teasing Georgia as well and thought it would make a great contrast with the red brick and the white Desdemona in the front corners. Do you grow Teasing Georgia? I know it's own-root at DA and have read only good things about it but am wondering how large it will actually get.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I have a young teasing georgia in part sun. I planted it on hard clay without admending the soil. She has never been sprayed and has never been watered except for the rain. She has taken longer to grow that I thiught she would but probably it is due to my extreme neglect.

    She is only maybe 4 feet but i have seen her get HUGE. if you giver her full sun and feed her and water her she could be awesome


    the david austin website does not show how truly beautiful Bathsheba is. If you search helpmefind you can see pictures that really show her beauty. she actually grows more like a climber than teasing georgia ( grew 6 feet tall here in one season). She has excellent disease resistance.

    here are some pictures of her. Very few roses can perform here like they do in california but i am hopeful she is one of those.

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5691785/bathsheba-a-david-austin-rose


    sorry for all the crazy horrible spelling but my iphone just freezes and I have to keep pressing keys without seeing what i type, then when it all shows up i cant correct

  • 3 years ago

    Great looking rose as well, but I think I like the yellow of Teasing Georgia better than the more orange tone of Bathsheba, Dianela.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks for posting your wonderful photos, Dianela. That pillar of Mel is something else. Just amazing and so beautiful. Also, I thank you for the link to the old thread about Bathsheba, which reminds me of how gorgeous that one is. it was funny to see what Nanadoll said about it. She was going to get Bathsheba, and now I think I can buy a five gallon plant locally. Time to reconsider her V Crazy Love. Sorry for going off topic. I'm amazed at how well your Teasing Georgia is doing. I'd suggest Golden Celebration, but I know nothing about how that rose would fare under humid conditions. Same for Colette. How are you doing, Dianela? The challenges just keep coming, don't they. I hope all is well with your family, and that someday you can have the time for more rose gardening. Diane

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Diane it is great to be able to post here some again even if my iphone has decided it hates the forum and barely lets me type (Ipad does it also so i dont know whats going on). How are you doing? I hope you are doing great and I cant wait to see pictures of your garden this spring. Hmmmm I think both roses are very beautiful, but I prefer Bathsheba. I am probably biased because I love the Austins and it is so dificult to find any that has good foliage here. CL looks like AL here and I wonder what her colors will look like in your garden. If she is place near Al they will probably would look stuning. Either rose would look fabulous I cant wait to see what you end up choosing for your Bonica spot. We are doing well around here, I feel like I may get to do some gardening this spring (trying to pot some of my roses to relocate them). I have ordered a total of three roses that I am planing on putting in pots for now. I have struggled with lots of hip/pelvic ligament pains and laxity since having the baby but I feel like I am recovering. I have always loved your Colette and golden celebration. I think golden celebration would not fare well here with blackspot but I am planning on having a Colette at my future new garden to see how it does 😁.

  • 3 years ago

    I live in a nashville suburb and have 2 grafted Teasing Georgia.


    they have pretty clean foliage, for a rose.

    i planted them as shrubs and am having a challenge winding them horizontal to keep them in check.

    theyd definitely like to climb although mine are young so not sure how tall theyd get.

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  • 3 years ago

    Thank you, JC. I placed an order for three TG yesterday. The color and shape looks great, the healthy foliage and rebloom will be important and the fragrance will be a bonus.