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IDing and Removing invasives

4 years ago

Location: Southtowns/Erie County/Western New York

Hardiness Zone: 5b


As I start to explore the wooded part of our property, I'm trying to identify what is native and what is invasive, and what are effective techniques for their removal. In addition to the multiflora rosa that I will be cutting back and painting with glyphosate for many years, here are two:


I believe this tree is Common Hawthorn? Several 15-20ft trees with these yellow and red fruits, branches with many thorns/spines.


Ignoring the degrading battery in this photo, much of the understory is a thicket of this spindly, woody shrub. I thought that this might be Privet? Didn't get any good photos of the leaves during the summer. On thicker trunks/branches, the bark is split and peeling. The deadwood is brittle but pliable. Always seems to be another pointy twig right at eye level while cutting a path through it and so intertwined that it makes you wish crown shyness was a more common phenomenon.




Comments (10)

  • 4 years ago

    No, that’s not Privet. Perhaps Elder??? Any buds visible?

    samohtep thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Not privet. I'm thinking more along the lines of Butterfly Bush, Buddleia for the second picture and yes to Hawthorne which is native for the first.

    Effective techniques of removal will vary by the plant.

    samohtep thanked Christopher CNC
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The second photo gives off vibes of one of the invasive honeysuckles. Check to see if the stems are hollow. Most, if not all of the invasive lonicera have hollow stems. Native honeysucle will have solid stems. The bark often will be shaggy and peeling on older stems. Look at the twigs and buds. The buds of lonicera will be opposite and almost at right angles to the stem.


    Of course the ID would be easier with leaves and blooms, lol.

    samohtep thanked fig_insanity Z7b E TN
  • 4 years ago

    Currently, there is about two feet of snow keeping me from most of this, but we're supposed to get a warm-up this week, so I'll see if I can get to them this week and see if any buds have started to form.


    I wasn't aware that we had any native hawthorns!


    I'll have to check to be sure, but I do believe that these stems have a hollow core.



  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The hawthorn could be a native or non-native. You would need a correct species ID. They have wicked thorns so I remove them.

  • 4 years ago

    The pictured Hawthorn isn’t Crataegus monogyna which is invasive in the US. Whether you have other invasive Hawthorns I don’t know.

  • 4 years ago

    Crataegus is also a genus with several hundred species that are very likely promiscuous and highly variable making a definitive ID more difficult. Except for the thorns, they can be quite lovely and make good deer food.

  • 4 years ago

    The first photo looks like Dotted Hawthorn (C. punctata), but I say that only because the leaf is similar and it is common in the eastern U.S. In any case, I suspect this tree is native. English Hawthorn (C. monogyna) is classified as invasive in California, but not in the east.


    The second photo looks like Amur Honeysuckle. I can't speak to New York, but in the upper midwest it is highly invasive. I've removed a lot of it. If this is what you've got, you'll want a plan to remove it ASAP.


    You're on the right track to identify plants before removing them. This will be much easier once you can see fresh foliage, flowers, and fruit.


    Question for Christopher: Do you remove all plants with thorns and why?

  • 4 years ago

    Pretty much. I am a working gardener and I hate thorns. There are so many plant choices in this world there is simply no reason to be getting stabbed all the time.

    How that works out in real life is another matter. Thorns are hard to avoid in the plant world. In my garden they are confined to tenacious weeds like Blackberry and Greenbriar/Smilax.