Bolero would be beautiful! but agree with lax canes!

Hmm, Young Lycidas has wonderful lax canes. I'm having trouble posting photos tonight, but I'll see if I can post one of this rose. Diane

Still won't post my pics.

I second YL and will add Sweet Chariot or Vineyard Song. I always get confused on which has the lax growth habit. Swany is another Ive always admired in a pot. The

I nominate Young Lycidas or Sophie’s Perpetual

Diane, I tried several times to post a pic on another thread a couple of hours ago, and it didn't take. Must be a glitch.

Susan, I never have problems posting photos on houzz, and early evening I suddenly couldn't post any on any thread. It a site wide thing, I'll bet. I was able to post photos earlier in the day.

It looks like Young Lycidas is a popular choice. Diane

IfEarth Angel is another one that looks fabulous in a pot.

Bonica is hard to beat for sheer abundance of bloom, not to mention it is very disease tolerant/resistant. It's by the same breeder as the Meilland Romantica series, of which several would make good pot specimens.

Bonica on HMF

Diane - I’ve seen photos of your Augusta Louise and she’s gorgeous! I think she would look beautiful in the pot. Coincidentally, I’ve considered digging up my Munstead Wood and putting him in there as well. I did have a Julia Child a few years ago but she was drowned during a winter of extreme rain. Young Lycidas is interesting and my husband favors bold colors more than me… so I’m going to keep that one in mind. I do think lax canes would be a plus but not a deal breaker. Have you had experience with The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild, I heard he has lax canes but wonder if they are too lax and need stakes? Also, from time to time I’ve had problems posting photos too and for some reason I can never post to the camellia forum.

I love Bonica, too, and currently grow its sport, Royal Bonica. R Bonica might be too large for the urn. Augusta Luise is still my first choice. Diane

Mischievous Magpie, I think a rose with lax canes would be wonderful. I am wondering if my Lady of Shallot would be a be good fit for the pot but want to see if she fills out a little more. She’s going into her third year and seems to put out long octopus arms all over the place.

CeresMer, I love Bolero and for a year have been thinking of adding it to my garden!

Vaporvac - They are all great recommendations, thank you! I’ve always loved Vinyard Song and have had Earth Angel on my wish list for a few years now, for a place with part shade. My only concern with putting her in the pot would be if she can take the full sun and heat in my zone 10 as I see her zoned up to 9 on Heirloom and I don’t see a zone listed on HMF. What’s your opinion?

Oursteelers, YL is a popular suggestion I can’t ignore. The blooms on Sophie’s Perpetual are wonderfully ruffled, thank you.

Fig-insanity, I’ve always wanted Bonica!!! Also, I’ve been considering getting Fire Meilland for a space in my backyard rock garden but at your suggestion, I’m wondering if she’ll look better in the pot. What are your thoughts?

Fig- I see I misspoke! Fire is part of the Meidiland series not the Meilland series. Sorry!

Diane, I’ve always wanted Bonica and now you say she has a sport! Oh my, her blooms are even more beautiful!!! My only apprehension about Augusta Louise is that she may give me neon orange blooms in this heat. Yours is so stunning, I don’t know how you do it!

What about Strawberry Hill? Lax canes, beautiful mid pink blooms and, although fragrance is subjective, smells incredible to me.

Magpie, Strawberry Hill has beautiful blooms. I’ve hear heard she can be a climber for some how does she perform for you? Maybe if she’s not trained to climb, one gets those nice lax canes perfect for a tall pot.

White Meidiland might be another idea for a white rose. It has lovely leaves and was one of Ingids favourites. She lives in Thousand Oaks, I think. Its also known as Super Swany.

Lara, Bonica is hands down my most floriferous pink (that isn't a climber, lol), and I have many. The flower form isn't as full as some others, but the sheer number of blooms hides any deficiency in form. The blooms do shrink in size a bit in mid-summer heat, but they never slow down in number. It's also one of the top 10 healthiest shrub roses in my (mostly) non-spray garden. Of course you may have a totally different strain of black spot, but Bonica has a very good reputation. It makes a very dense, full-to-the-ground shrub...no bare legs! I would think being elevated, with such good air flow, that it would be even healthier for you. Just don't allow whatever rose you choose to suffer for lack of water. Elevated, and in full sun, that pot is going to need special attention.

@Lara Zone 10 it's new for me and I'm in a much colder zone than you, though I love the flowers and very clean foliage. Bayareagirl grows it in zone 9 or 10, I'll see if I can find a thread with her photos on it. Please hold...

Here's one thread though I know there are more of her great photos out there, her second photo posted shows how it just cascades over the edge of her border. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5683744/strawberry-hill

Hello Lara, I can share my experience with Amazing Grace (bought last summer as a gallon plant). I also fell in love with the bloom and fragrance, and was planning to use it as a specimen plant in a large pot next to front door, but no, so far I'd recommend it as a cut flower, because it's not very vigorous, bares one ginormous bud at a time in my tiny 2 feet tall plant (HT growth habit), maybe it would improve in the next few years but who knows. In comparison, my Abraham Darby bought as a gallon plant last summer already exploded this spring with numerous new canes and countless buds, planted and cared for in the same condition as Amazing Grace. Although I don't regret getting AG, I currently have a bloom sitting in my desk, love the bloom and the fragrance as a cut flower.

Oh my gosh. Above is the first photo I've been able to post in over two days. Lara, that is my Royal Bonica--the rose I was discussing above. It's grafted on multiflora and is quite huge, so it might not work in your urn. I've grown this rose for years, and at another location. I prefer it grafted on Dr Huey. I got a kick out of reading Michael's post above talking about his fast growing Abe Darby. I grow many really big roses, but Abe is the runt of the entire pack. That rose just will not grow. His blooms are lovely, but fairly petite, matching the plant's size. Abe is own root and I think he needs to be grafted. Michael is your Abe grafted? I'm one of the oddballs who loves grafted roses. My own root Julia Child is small compared to my big girls and doesn't bloom as well as the grafted Julias. Below (I hope) is a photo of the entire Royal Bonica, but right after a hard prune. It's lots bigger right now because I decided not to prune it this year. I'm doing a pruning experiment. Below Royal Bonica is Young Lycidas. Diane

Vaporvac, great suggestion. I’ve always felt White Meidiland is beautiful! I think she would look wind in the urn, however, my husband is not a fan of her spreading habit in a pot so we are considering her in our backyard rock garden with roses.

@Diane Brakefield my Abe Darby is own root from Heirloom. I chose own root when I grow roses in pots (30 gallon), and grafted when in ground to compete with tree roots in the yard, but I am afraid my Abe is going to outgrow the pot pretty soon. Your Royal Bonica is beautiful!

Fig, Thank you for the thorough review of Bonica. I’m definitely sold on getting her for another location, and have the perfect spot in mind outside my kitchen breakfast nook. My drawback for putting her in the pot is her petal count. I just have my heart set on a very full flower. You are so right about the thorough watering of that pot, sometimes I run the irrigation for it 2-3 times a day in the summer heat… it get gets all day sun, no shade at all.

Lara, one of the most spectacular specimen roses I've ever seen was a Scarlet Meidiland growing as a weeping standard at my local nursery. They had it in a tree box, if you get my drift, so it was clearly designed for someone in the more pricey areas of where I live! The trunk was longer than the usual 3'... perhaps 4', with the height of the tree box adding overall height. Anyway, I never forgot it :-D

Magpie - Thank you! I’m sure she’ll do well for you. She’s such a lovely rose and I love her full and dense look. Those blooms are so scrumptious! I’m adding her to my wish list!

Michael, Thank you for sharing your experience with AG. I’ve been second guessing my decision to put her in the urn and your review has swayed me not to. I wish you luck and hope she improves for you! I’m still in love with her blooms.

Diane, So glad you’re able to post photos again! I am speechless and breathless looking at your photos! Your roses are the gold standard! I love the petal edges on your Royal Bonica and her lovely reverse provides great contrast and depth. Young Lycidas - nodding giant globular blooms - need I say more!!! Soooo Romantic! And, what is that delectable yellow rose??? Your foliage is so lush and green, make me grumpy over my poor heavy clay soil and no rain. Well, my wish list continues to grow, as I’m adding RB to it. After seeing your photos of YD, I’m very seriously considering her for the urn. How do you find her scent strength and her bloom repeat, is she continuous? I got my Abe last year, own root. He put out two new canes last year, which have continued to grow this year and is starting a tiny new cane now. I didn’t cut him back this spring as he is so young and there wasn’t much to cut. I didn’t want to set him back. He gets mostly shade right now and hasn’t bloomed yet this year because of it, but in a month he’ll be getting more sun. Last year he gave me three decent sized blooms. Half of my roses are own root and half are grafted, not sure what rootstock offhand… but most of everything turns into a giant here. Last year my Mr. Lincoln and Eternal Flame got 8 feet tall, even after I cut them back halfway in the fall!

Susan, I just looked up SM, and I can so picture her as a standard with those sprays of blooms hanging in the air. Now I’m dreaming of places to add tree roses, lol.

Thanks so much, Lara. I'm glad we are finally able to post photos! The yellow rose you asked about is Julia Child. I have two really large plants that are almost 17 years old and still going strong. As common as she is, I think most rose growers wanting a good yellow rose should give Julia a try. Young Lycidas has good repeat but is not a continuous bloomer. I don't think any Austin is, except maybe Munstead Wood for me, anyway. You may not believe this, but I've never tried to sample YL's scent. My nose is not great, and here in our very dry climate, scents do not waft outside. I hope others who grow YL can tell you more. If you want a continuous bloomer, Julia Child is a good bet. Munstead might be in that league, too, but I can only speak for mine. Diane

My Julia Child drowned in extreme spring rain the first year I had her, and before she could grow, so I never got to see her. I’m thinking I should try her again, my husband likes yellows. Have you grown Doris Day? I’m wondering about her for the urn too…. Sooo many choices. As far as DA’s go, my Munstead and Olivia Rose Austin are pretty continuous… I just need them to grow taller, they’re both about 18 inches. This will be their third year, so hopefully they’ll have a growth spurt. Overall, I’m thinking of waiting to see how Lady of Shallot,Jude the Obscure and my newly planted Princess Alexandra of Kent perform this year… to see if they will work on the urn. I did have Olivia in the urn first but she was such a runt I had to take her out. I replaced her with what I thought was Amazing Grace, only to find out that I was sent the wrong rose. Heirloom couldn’t definitively tell me which rose I have but they did give me a list of some possibilities. I can’t really pin it down but it seems to be a shrub form and was a prolific bloomer it’s first year. It just doesn’t have enough petals for me to stay in the urn, in such a prominent position. Thank you for sharing your experience with JC and YL, it’s very valuable.

I am surprised your Olivia is so small. She is a biggish rose for me, but not a favorite. Her blooms bleach in our dry heat and she's not near the bloomer that Munstead is for me. Princess Al, as you probably know from my rants, was a huge thug, gigantic, whose blooms changed to little coral things in the heat here. She was removed in a marathon dig out several years ago. I can show you a pic of the huge stump--haha, everyone's seen that thing. Jude is quite huge, so watch out. His blooms are amazing, but her is definitely not a continuous bloomer. Of course, you will have your own experiences growing these roses, and I hope one of them proves to be a good choice for your urn. It sounds like you get quite a bit of rain, which should be of help. I haven't grown Doris Day, but I doubt she's as good as Julia. Golden Celebration is a great rose, but really big. He blooms steadily. You may have seen this Jude photo below. Diane

Olivia’s size may be partly my fault. She was a slow grower her first year in the urn, as many Austins are… Her second year (last year) there was considerable growth but I moved her into the ground halfway through the summer. When I moved her, I cut her down to 6 inches and completely defoliated her. She rebounded extremely quick with a surprising amount of vigor and flowering. So the 18 inches in height, I guess, is more than I could have asked asked for last year. Maybe she also didn’t like it in the urn so much. So far this year she’s almost as big as she was last year, so we’ll see what happens. I have seen those pics of your POK stump, lol, what a beast. Right now Lady of Shallot’s octopus arms are encroaching into both Jude’s and POK’s spaces, so they’ll be dueling at some point. I have limited space in my rose garden, so I’m spacing roses 3 feet apart and trimming when necessary to keep them in check. It’s generally hot and dry here with a lot of wind so air flow isn’t a problem for me. I hope my Jude looks as beautiful as yours, I adore that last apricot bloom!!! Do wish we had more rain. We are currently in a drought and I hope we don’t end up having water restrictions. Our rainy seasons haven’t been that rainy since the extreme weather that drowned JC a few years ago. Thank you for your thoughts on Doris Day. I have pined over Golden Celebration but her size is just too much for my garden right now.

Lara, I have two Doris Day, and I love her very much. But given the height of that urn, don't you really want something that will drape over the sides? I don't see the point of putting an upright-growing rose in there :-D

We discussed Young Lycidas as a possibility up the thread because he drapes well. Diane

Susan, I would love something that drapes :), but in lieu of that something full and bushy. Young Lycidas is on my short list, however, It’s my understanding that he has 6 foot long canes??? I don’t know if I have the room for that, would be great if he was smaller in a pot.

My YL doesn't have canes that long, and he's very easy to prune. Still, he might be on the large side. Diane

Thank you, Diane. You always have great experience to impart. I don’t mind largish as I’m looking for a show stopper and I would think he’d be a bit smaller in the urn.

Lara, I grow >90% of my 250 roses in large pots, which adds ~18" to their height. So my goal is to have them not get too tall, and it generally works well. I have given away a few top faves b/c they just got too darned tall for that situation. OTOH, Golden Celebration for me has a strong tendency to lax canes, which I think might be perfect for your urn. I bought my first one own-root from Chamblees in 2003, and kept it on the edge of an elevated (18") raised bed, so I could really enjoy the blooms with its lax habit. So that's 3' of elevation for that GC. My current one I got from Heirloom in 2011, and it's living on the ground in the pot. For both, I kept/keep GC pruned well, and the canes don't get much more than 3'. And it blooms a LOT. Sometimes as the year goes on, I'll put in a stake and tie his canes up a bit. Anyway, just a possibility for your urn in terms of draping :-D

I've had a different experience with Golden Celebration--he's about 9 feet tall at summer's end, and grows unsupported. His canes aren't as stiff as say, Wild Blue Yonder, but they're not as lax as Young Lycidas' canes. GC is pruned hard in spring. GC is pretty much a steady bloomer. Diane

Diane, your huge gorgeous Golden Celebration was sort of what I was thinking of when I made my post! I wonder if the fact that my two GCs over the years were both own-root influenced their habit? I know that you have often had better luck with grafted (as have I), and couldn't remember if your GC was grafted.

Susan, when I read your post I did think that your experience with GC might have been because your plants were own root. My GC is grafted and about 15 years old. I was surprised that in California your plants didn't grow into monsters. I think it is Jeri Jennings who also has a huge GC. Diane