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Critters and Roses

I suppose more than one thread concerning rose enemies exists on this forum, but I feel pretty desperate sometimes in this Arizona culture where it feels like it's me alone against an army of javelinas. For those of you who are unfamiliar with them, as I blissfully once was, they are pig like creatures in the peccary family. I have been in a great struggle with these beasts and this morning I woke to discover that once again they raided my flower garden! I had been so delighted that many of my baby roses were leafing out and putting out buds, some just starting to show color...and now this! Chewed and mangled again. We built a fence around the vegetable garden a year ago and now my husband and I are building a rock wall enclosing the entire back and side yard. We have a good 50 feet finished, but 250 ft to go. Of course, once that's done, there's no way for them to destroy anything, but in the meantime, I need more strategies to keep them at bay. Anyone from this forum have succes with any electronic gadget that really work to repel them? I hear there's a new one out that is supposed to really work, but I'm skeptical... Any other methods that work for you?
Here's a snapshot of the wall that we're building.

Comments (18)

  • 4 years ago

    I don't know a lot about javelinas but I do know there are little "scarecrows" that my parents had in their yard, they worked off of motion sensors and shot out a bunch of water all around and made noise, and it deterred larger pests for them. Sadly I don't know what the water squirty things are called. But do you think those might work to spook them off if you had them on the perimeter of your flower bed?

  • 4 years ago

    Good idea. I think my friend just down the road tried that, but it only worked for a short time. Eventually they didn't mind getting an impromptu shower, it seemed. Still, it might work as long as I need it...

  • 4 years ago

    I love your wall, Judi. I only know chicken wire cages and hardware cloth but that might not be enough for javelinas. I am so sorry.

  • 4 years ago
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    Ugh! My sympathy!! I haven’t battled anything so boarish, but I have used chicken wire and the heavy duty steel stakes that are designed to hold mesh fencing to wall out other kinds of big, powerful invaders. The materials were fairly reasonably priced, and they kept out a pair of determined Rottweilers. You can add heavy duty soil staples to the bottom of the wire fencing, too. The stakes and wire can be removed and repurposed after the stone wall goes up. Gorgeous wall, by the way! Carol

  • 4 years ago

    I wonder if you could rent a stronger chain link fence like they use for portable goat herds that are moved around to keep vegetation short. Think like a playpen for your planted areas.

  • 4 years ago

    We have a fencing company scheduled to come in June and put up a "no climb" perimeter fence in June and that will fence off a large portion of our property. Those fences do quite well at deterring them, though the occasional one still manages to push under them. Many locals line their fences with rocks around the base to further deter them.

    I figure on setting up a temporary fence to close off the portions that will not be enclosed by this fence until the stone wall is finished. But until June...
    Thanks for the compliments on the wall. It actually looks much nicer in person, I think. I'm terrible at photography.

  • 4 years ago

    I like the wall too, Judi. I take it you’re doing the work yourselves. Did you have prior experience doing similiar projects? We’d like some close-ups if possible. Are the stones from the property, or from elsewhere?

    Whst promising electric gadget did you hear about?

    My dream is that someone develops a drone which detects deer entry in my yard, and flies toward them and repels them, and then returns to its docking station. And that the developer brings this product to market.

  • 4 years ago

    What a great idea, Rifs, to invent such a drone! I would be happy to trial one if someone manufactured such a device. I will post a picture of the electronic gadget I'm referring to, listed on Amazon. I would be happy to hear if anyone has experience with this or similar.

    As for the stone masonry, my husband was raised in Pennsylvania and was involved in the family business of building custom homes. A number of clients who built homes in the mountains hired stone masons to build rock walls. While my husband never helped, he observed, and being very good with his hands, he figured we can do it. We are doing all the work ourselves.There are lots of rocks here locally. After we exhausted the supply on our property, we discovered plenty of neighbors who are happy to have us harvest rocks from their acreage, so we have all we need and more. It's a lot of hard work, but very satisfying and something we enjoy doing together. I'll post another picture closer up. Once we have our yard all fenced in, we plan to finish landscaping, including a bit of grass.

  • 4 years ago

    Judi, I just had to emphasize that I am BEYOND impressed! You and your husband are amazing!! Carol

  • 4 years ago

    I see that only the Amazon screen shot was posted. Apparently Houzz decided not to let me post 2 pictures at once. I'll try again with closer shot of the stone wall. Plans are to continue the wall on the other side of the house and it will connect to the garden fence. One corner of this, a space approximately 32'×36' will be walled off for my lifelong dream of a walled garden, my "Secret Garden". I am very excited about this and have been drawing sketches of the layout for months...realistically speaking, I won't be able to actually plant this garden till next spring, but I'm collecting roses and other plants in preparation. Again, this is an exercise in patience, but the process is part of the pleasure to me. Thank you for your kind comments on our efforts! All of the lovely garden photos you gardeners post on this forum have given me so much inspiration. Without your insights and ideas, I wouldn't be able to do this! Some day I hope to be able to share photos of my gardens as well...though I should let my daughter do the photography! ;)

  • 4 years ago

    What a fantastic effort, Judi! That will be a magical secret garden.

  • 4 years ago

    I too love your walls, they're really beautiful. Good stonework is a wonderful thing.

    I certainly have suffered from critters, though not javelinas or similar. Wild boars plowing the fields, mice eating the tulips and hyacinths, badgers digging through the mulch, deer eating shrub foliage and rubbing the bark off branches, canes, and trunks, or breaking them entirely, porcupines uprooting shrubs to get at tubers, and devouring all my irises: I've suffered them all. Nothing that does serious harm to the roses, though. Walls aren't a realistic option for us, so we just live with it as best we can, and don't grow certain things. Roses aren't one of the important victims. I love narcissus and other members of that family in part because animals don't eat them.

  • 4 years ago

    Judi, as many have said already, your wall is beautiful and quite impressive. I grew up in the desert of Az and the only successful method at keeping javalinas out of was walking or fencing them out. I wish you good luck with a temporary measure until your wall is done. They are hungrier and even less picky than dear, aren't they?

  • 4 years ago

    Your wall is wonderful and I love the secret garden idea. Maybe this guy below, a goat guardian, could be of help for the time being. Diane




  • 4 years ago

    That's interesting, Librarian, that you grew up in this state. I would never have imagined that I would live here some day, but circumstances have changed and I am learning to like it here...most days. Diane, I would love to have a nice big dog to help gaurd my gardens, but I would need to tie it up since we live on a street corner and there are those who wouldn't appreciate a dog on the loose. Our neighbors have a German Shepherd that they tied out in the yard. The javelinas attacked it and since it couldn't get away, was ripped open badly. Thankfully he recovered, but it was a long road to health for the poor dog. I certainly don't want to risk it. Our youngest son turns 6 this summer and he wants a dog for his birthday...and I want a dog for his birthday. But the stone wall and gates must be in place first so his dog will be safe. We're steadily working at it, but a stone wall doesn't rise out of the dust overnight. In the meantime, I plan to try these electronic gadgets and see for myself. Hopefully they buy us some time. We did consider renting fences as you mentioned, Sheila, and just may try that if necessary.

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  • 4 years ago

    Most people don't live where a dog like that shown in the photo can do his work. He's a professional guardian dog, and the goat herd he guards is rented to eat down brush that is a fire hazard. There is a temporary fence shown in the pic that was moved around to different parts of the area needing brush "removal" The photos was taken of the gully right behind my back yard. We're in the hills of a semiarid desert where fire is a problem, especially during drought. The goats did too good a job on the brush and probably upped soil erosion in one area. Plus, some naughty boys let a pet dog out of a back yard. The dog promptly ran over to the gully, causing problems. The goats panicked, the fence was knocked down, and the guardian stayed with his herd, which was lucky for the pet dog on the loose. I'm not sure what happened to the boys--hope they caught it from their parents. The goats were not invited back. That's awful about the poor tied up dog of your neighbors. Diane

  • 4 years ago

    Sorry for the empty message...not sure how that happened 🤔.

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