Zone 5a part sun suggestions please

4 years ago

Hello rose lovers!

I’d love if anyone could share experiences in zone 5 with any of these roses in a part sun location. I’d like to put some of these in the ground in a bed that receives south facing full sun after 10/11am. The area is becoming a dedicated cream/pink rose garden. The house shades the morning sun, which isn’t ideal, but isn’t prohibitive if the right roses are planted there. For example, Mary Rose is very productive in this area, but Tess of the D’Urbervilles only gave sporadic blooms and needed to be moved.

Any of the roses I’ve listed can be planted in a full sun location or in pots rather than in this bed. They will be delivered within the next week. Does anyone have any experience one way or the other with these in my zone? Thank you for any input!

Scepter’d isle, bare root
Sharifa Asma, bare root
Wildeve, bare root
Olivia, bare root
Eglantyne, own root 1 gal (will keep her in large pot first year)

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Nippstress Nebraska z5
4 years ago
I would put Eglantyne in your sunniest spot as I don't find she's very robustly hardy in my zone 5. All of these Austins prefer sun so they are more likely to be like Tess than like Mary. The most likely to bloom in part sun would be Olivia Rose, as I have mine in part sun and she puts on a good size with some blooms. The other possibility would be Scepter'd Isle as the loose bloom structure might be OK in part sun. I have Wildeve in part sun and it's very unhappy there. Sharifa Asma I have two and she needs as much sun as you can give her to put on some size so there are more than scattered blooms. Sharifa stays small so she's an ideal candidate for a pot anyway.

Hope that helps

Cynthia
strawchicago z5
4 years ago
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Among your list I grew these as own-roots:

Sharifa Asma (died after 10 years): too small as own-root, but bloomed better than Eglantyne in 4 hrs. of morning sun.

Eglantyne (lived for 3 years): my own-root gave 3 blooms max in 4 hrs. of sun. Nearby rose park had a bunch of Eglantynes (grafted on Dr.Huey), they were big bushes but with 5 blooms max per bush, also in morning sun.

Scepter'd Isle (gave away since it's HUGE as own-root): best in partial shade. I had mine in full sun and the blooms didn't last long.

A friend grows 2 Olivia Austin roses in partial shade and they bloom well for her.
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Shay (5a NH)
Original Author
4 years ago
Cynthia - thank you, I will do that with Eglantyne, I will also put her in a pot and overwinter in the garage if she’s not reliably hardy. Our NH winters are very cold. Thank you for all of that information! It’s looking like I might end up keeping quite a few of these in pots with the exception of Wildeve and Scepter’d Isle. The order came today - Scepter’d Isle is an own root and she is large! I think I’ll put her in the pink bed right in the ground. The rest I’ll pot up and play with locations. I am truly grateful for your insight! I hope that you are well and your garden is waking up slowly but surely, as mine is.

Straw - so glad you chimed in! Sharifa Asma came as a grafted bare root and is a decent size. I’ll keep her in a pot in full sun. As for Eglantyne, I’ll put her in full sun and pamper her, as we do, and hope for the best. Scepter’d Isle came as an own root from DA and you’re not wrong about the size! She’s huge - she’ll have a center spot in this bed and will fit in nicely. Thank you so much for your feedback!

With gratitude and love,

Shaylyn