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Is this Round-up damage?

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

All of my roses in one bed that adjoins my neighbor's yard look like the photos attached...I noticed droopy Bleeding Heart first, and now this. If not chemical, what could it be? All the tips are droopy and or drying out. He has a pristine yard with lots of mulch--and lots of Round=up. Shouldn't accuse him of anything until I get some input.....Sorry--I made one duplicate but can't see a way to delete it.








Comments (21)

  • 4 years ago

    I would flood them with water.

    vedazu thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 4 years ago

    Roundup for sure, no way those healthy little leaves would look like that without roundup unless you aren’t watering and it’s really hot.

    vedazu thanked GardeningTeenager
  • 4 years ago

    Could be. Regardless, I would cut off the brown stuff. Overall I think the plants look OK, so should recover fine from whatever it is.


    I have neighbors like that. Home Depot and Lowes love people like your neighbors.

    vedazu thanked charles kidder
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    @vedazu actually dont think its round up.

    I have damaged my own roses with roundup before (twice on multiple cultivars unfortunately) and it presents as very stiff spindly growth. like an old fashioned broom.

    maybe it is from a different chemical?

    where are you located?

    i am not an expert but i have had some climbers look like that when we had an early heat wave. stresses the new growth

  • 4 years ago

    I don’t think anything in your photos is pathognomonic of round-up damage. I’d be more certain if I had the experience of spraying it on roses, then performing serial observations for 10 days or so.

    But the details you provide certainly do suggest it as the cause. Do you have unaffected non-rose plantings in the same bed? Does the adjoining portion of neighbor’s yard have plantings, and if so, do they appear to be similiary affected?

    Report back developments over the next few days.

  • 4 years ago

    The problem seems to be getting more serious....one rose has pretty much died, I think. I'll post some pictures tomorrow. Perhaps it is my lawn guy. Here in NJ, we've had a lot of rain, so I was hopeful that it would help flush this out, but also, a lot of wind. A couple of weeks ago, the guy riding around his little machine putting down herbicide on a windy day could have been the culprit .Roses behind the first row of plantings seem to be okay.

  • 4 years ago

    Does this much talked about “flushing” postulate using water to remove roundup from the soil, or from the rose? Are kidneys involved?

  • 4 years ago

    It could possibly be can bore damage. It presents starting at the tips and works it way down.

  • 4 years ago

    thank you all--Vaporvac, I hope it isn't correct, what you suggest. We're talking roses throughout my rather large yard. Some roses are continguous, but others are many feet away. I'll keep everyone posted in this next week. Thank you, all.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I would rather that than round up damage. I had this a couple of years ago and lost many roses to the round-up damage. They looked like they might rebound and then they struggled and died over the winter. With cane borers, one can always cut off the dead canes and dispose of them. If you catch them early the borers are still in the canes.

    vedazu thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 4 years ago

    Update: Shown below are some photos: Bonica, Knockout, Mother of Pearl, (and three others like it), Yellow Submarine, and Westerland. four different locations, but all "on the aisle."

    All of these are getting more ill...to the point that, for sure, one of the Mothers of Pearl is now essentially dead. If not Roundup, how about lawn herbicide? I have no idea what the guy puts down--it doesn't affect many other plantings, but took out a phlox and damaged columbine and bleeding heart. Thank you for your suggestions about the causes, and any mitigation that might be useful?






  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    If your "lawn guy" was applying an herbicide on a breezy day, this would almost certainly result in this kind of damage. There's no way I would trust any lawn service company with an herbicide in my yard.

    As for "mitigation", fire the lawn guy. There's no saving roses that have been exposed to glyphosate (or the equivalent).

  • 4 years ago

    So sorry Vedazu, so sad.

  • 4 years ago

    Oh, what a shame. I'm so sorry. :(

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you, all for your kind comments. I just woke up and took a look at the (increasing) damage, and feel quite emotional about this. I was so looking forward to a brilliant show this spring, and now it is going to be heavy work to get these out of the ground and start again. I had just purchased a couple of Mother of Pearls to put elsewhere in my garden, and now I am going to have to find another three to make up for the 5 I've lost. Aach.....

  • 4 years ago

    Horrible. They must have been indiscriminately spraying everything. Reminds me of those weed and feed lawn fertilizers. Terrible idea to put herbicide all over the yard. Herbicides need to be spot sprayed in very small areas followed by putting down seed. Otherwise a new weed will pop up where the previous one died.

    vedazu thanked charles kidder
  • 4 years ago

    Hi, rifis--I phoned the "lawn guy" and he tells me he uses something called Iron-X or something or another. I looked it up on line.....it seems to be used a lot these days.


  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I’m so sorry this happened to you, this is terrible. I would consider pruning down the surviving roses significantly below the already damaged area…perhaps the herbicide has not traveled throughout the base of the plant and it can survive and regenerate. I hope you have also at the very least given ’lawn guy“ aka rose killer a very stern warning the stay the h3ll clear of your yard!

    ETA: I read up on Iron X. Apparently it’s a strong dose of cheleated iron, which of course is very benefiical to plants in the proper dosage, but burns them if too concentrated. So what you have is like a severe case of fertilizer burn. I bet the bases of most of those plants are still alive.

    vedazu thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 4 years ago

    IF IronX is the culprit, I agree with Ben, and that would be (relatively) very good news.


    Vedazu, I’m interested to read you went all in on MoP. I have just one, and I almost bought a different rose instead of it, but the review by (the late) John Moody on HMF made the difference. He was right. It is one of my very best performers. Did you have prior experience with it?

  • 4 years ago

    rifis: I bought a couple many years ago when it was first introduced....I just like the color very much, and in re-doing a long bed by the driveway, put five of them in that bed. I'm not a great rose-grower...I'm not around all summer--go to Minnesota in July--so they get neglected a bit. Mine, therefore, get a little leggy and sometimes get black spot a bit...but they've lasted more than a decade, and always put on a wonderful show in May/June.....and again in the autumn. I try other things throughout my yard, but love this rose especially.

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