More, because I'm just so pleased with it this year.

Mme. Plantier doing well this year despite everything. It's helped by having some shelter from the elements from an overhead cottonwood tree, though the drawback to that is that it is covered in the cotton during bloom time, as you can see. The scent of the individual flowers is light/medium, but when there are a lot of them, they waft a delicate fragrance that is very enjoyable. The flowers are always well formed, the foliage always healthy, and it is vigorous even in a shadier spot. This rose has a forever spot in my garden.

Year 3 and Reine Victoria is still a pathetic size and doesn't seem to be gaining any vigor at all with each passing year. The flower is pretty, well formed, lasts well, medium fragrance, but I mean... The plant is 12" tall and like, 2 canes. I don't think it likes my yard, and I'm not impressed with the hardiness at all, sad to say.

That's what I have heard about RV that she can be difficult. I threw a bag of steer manure down to age and forgot about it , not meaning to plant anything there . The roses close to it started to do really well. You could just let her sit and be whatever she must.

Raubritter healthy and hardy in year 2, more vigorous now than last year. The bloom doesn't look how I expected but it's the first bloom ever so it may just need some more time. Can't smell it because the bloom is out of reach.

Magpie, I'm surprised and very pleased for you that some of your roses are so large and have so many flowers, given the awful weather you've had and that they're fairly young bands. John Cabot and Mme Plantier look great. I've only ever seen Mme Plantier once - in a garden in Tasmania, and I thought her stunningly beautiful. Therese Bugnet looks very pretty and hopefully will grow more bushy for you. That certainly doesn't look like any photo I've ever seen of Raubritter, but it's a baby.

Loved your photos of canterbury bells and rocky mountain penstemon (what a blue) on the other thread.

@titian1 10b Sydney Thanks for your kind words :) I think part of the reason that Therese Bugnet, John Cabot and Mme. Plantier have done better than many others is that they're in locations that offered some shelter. And the other big part is luck I suppose! I'm so pleased to see some rose blooms after everything, I've been spending a lot of time just staring and photographing, appreciating. It was terrible weather but I'm glad to see which of my roses were tough enough to deal with it, that's very useful information. I'm sure you learned a lot as well, observing which plants handled your torrential rains. Which plants would you say did the best during your weather adversity?

Magpie, a couple of things drowned (I think geranium Rozanne was one), but overall there was very little damage. Nothing much grew either as it was pretty dark! Day after day of heavy grey skies when it wasn't pouring. Occasionally the sun made a hazy appearance for a couple of minutes. I think we're going into a drought now, but that's Australia.

It's unusually cold here at the moment, and I managed to catch a cold overnight. Stuck on a beanie and have stopped sneezing so time to get up and plant my 2 Bliss. Munstead also needs to go in, but will have to prepare a hole so I doubt that will happen today.

I saw John Cabot in bloom a few years ago at a botanical garden in Steamboat Springs, CO. It was magnificent. I envy your ability to grow this rose… wouldn’t do well in my conditions.

Ispahan year 3. Definitely not my most vigorous rose so far but it's picking up some steam now and has turned out to be a good bloomer. It also finally developed a nice fragrance this year. Good winter hardiness, lovely foliage, lovely blooms. I'm really enjoying it this year.

Gorgeous @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) My Ispahan is barely more than a band still. I kept it in a pot for about six months after I got him from HCR but I still am wondering if he wasn’t ready to go into my crap, cedar root infested soil🤦🏻‍♀️

Magpie , incredible !

how very beautiful your Ispahan is , an old beauty seldom seen. I would prize that rose.

Research brought up a French pastry.

Magpie, I was so worried about you when I saw the latest hailstorm.

Your Ishpahan is really beautiful.

@Kristine LeGault 8a pnw Thank you for thinking of me. 💜 I did answer your other comment about the hail on another thread, can't remember which one now. We are fine, just had heavy rains thankfully. The blooms of Ispahan stood up to the rain quite well, I think.

The season has begun. Most of my roses are still in the bud stage but a few eager early roses are beginning to bloom. My two earliest, Therese Bugnet (year 3 I think) and John Cabot (year 4 I think) side by side, TB at the tail end of the spring flush, and John Cabot just getting started. I love the week or so when they overlap. Magic! Both are very reliably winter hardy here. TB wants to arch nicely on its own and I don't do any shaping, it's a little less dense than I'd like but far from maturity so time will hopefully help that. JC is much fuller but very thorny and on the stiffer side so it's hard to wrangle. The bees are very fond of both roses which I love about them. JC sets nice orange hips. Both roses hold their color throughout the entire life of the bloom.

Gosh, that is a gorgeous corner and the season is just starting!

Gorgeous! I got a Madame Plantier because of you.

Those are gorgeous! what a great corner with such vibrant color

Thank you everyone! Dianela I can't believe that! Because of me? Well I really hope you love it 😅 My Madam Plantier had a lot of unexpected dieback this year, and I was worried about it, but then it reminded me of how very vigorous it is. It's filled out so well again despite losing some canes, and is absolutely loaded with buds, hundreds. It's been so rock solid for me. Not blooming yet but I'll be excited to update about it soon. Best wishes for you, your garden, and your MP :)

Himmelsauge was a brand new baby band for me last year. This year it is showing its first blooms. I love this bloom form. The flower itself is about 2.5" across, and the fragrance is wonderful. It reminds me a lot of the way Therese Bugnet smells to me, like sweet bubblegum (but without the note of clove). The buds, the leaves, the bloom, the bush, I'm just in love with this little baby rose already.

Just adorable, Magpie!

So Sheila, does Himmelsauge look like Russeliana to you?

Yes it does, Magpie.

Things opened quickly due to warm days. John Cabot full(ish) bloom. As usual for roses near this color, it's hard to get the color to relay faithfully in a photo.

Edit, this is probably peak bloom.

Himmelsauge photo dump, love the color variation in all stages of bloom. I can already are how the blooms age towards mauve. Excellent winter hardiness so far. Flexible canes make for a nice habit.

Going mauve...

Totally fresh bloom.

Here is Russelliana today, Magpie. It does not have your white edges on H.

The barn!!!😍😍😍😍😍

I am in love with your John Cabot! Can’t wait for blooms!!!

Paul Ricault beginning year 2. Lots of big fat buds, I have yet to see how they stand up to things here, it's due to be in the 90's when they should open. We shall see what the heat does. The fragrance so far is enjoyable, fruity.

Oooo I knew Paul Ricaullt would be good but I didn't expect that handsome !

Finally in year 3, Alchemist finally blooms. Could a rose be more beautiful?

Isabella Skinner year 2, very vigorous, totally winter hardy, and already a good bloomer. There is fragrance but I'm not sure I love it. Very informal bloom shape

I love your roses, Magpie. I love the IS blooms, but mine here gets BS. This Spring, we have more BS because we had more rain. I love rain, but the BS is unsightly.

Beautiful roses!

Thanks for posting the full bush picture and close ups of Isabella Skinner aka Victorian Memory. Mine is doing well, just a baby band from High Country Roses that I put in a couple of weeks ago. Yours is stunning and I can't wait for mine to bloom like that!

I enjoy having different blooms forms in my rose garden and this one is really unique.

Would you say it would benefit from a structure? I'm thinking of getting it a bigger trellis from Lowes since they are in stock (or at least were last time I checked) at this time of year.

I would say just based on my short time with it, yes it could use some tying in to a structure. The canes are long and flexible, though perhaps they stiffen up with maturity, I don't know yet. The blooms aren't heavy but there are enough of them to bend the canes down a bit and some of my blooms did faceplant into the dirt after a rain. Mostly they're keeping themselves upright enough for now though. I did question Matt about supporting it back when I bought it last year and he did mention that it was much better suited to being spread out along a fence or trellis as opposed to over an arch.

Thank you Sheila, that's so unfortunate about the BS. Is it bad enough for you to consider removing this rose?

Magpie, I do have some I am pondering regarding their future.

One problem I have here is that there are some roses that have had a setback of unknown cause. I strongly suspect gophers ate part of their roots, but not all. If all the roots are gone, it is easy to tell.

In the cases I suspect, I am leaving them in the ground and continuing to trap gophers. How this fight ends is to be determined. Of course, I am planting roses in root cages now and for the last two years.

I notice here, my Oriental poppies petered out. Seeding annual poppies has not really worked here. Flax petered out. Some clematis have petered out. Bulbs except daffodils get eaten by squirrels.

Some plants like the lilacs seem to be happy. I had wondered if it was too hot here for them, but no. Iris are great here. Tea roses do well but so do gallicas and old European roses. In other words, nature will win out and roses like IS are on the fence.

I do have Teplitz, for example, that always gets BS but I am keeping it. The blooms are gorgeous. Soleil d Or does great here, although one of our geniuses, Kim or Paul said it was the worst plant ever for them at their location.

I grew IS in Alaska and it was better there than here, but I did not have gophers there.

I think your garden is lovely and has more plants that worked in Alaska than I have here.

Rozanne geranium, on the other hand, is equally great both places/climates.

Thanks Magpie! I am now considering 3 shorter trellises side by side to give more of the fence approach.

After a year of recovering after being moved to a warmer spot, Mme. Ernest Calvat had a spring flush. It's still so small, it's barely hardy here if I'm being honest. I hope this warmer spot next to the driveway helps, but this is not a rose I would ever repurchase in my current zone, despite this positives, which include being beautiful and smelling wonderful. This is year 4 for it. It has earned another year, but it's still on probation.

Beautiful, Magpie. I would not let that Mme Ernest go.

So nice to see all these. They're all beautiful but John Cabot stands out to me..he's a stunner. Glad I got one. The color this spring was so saturated...it's just a joyful color.

Thank you Erasmus, I do enjoy my JC so much. It does bring me a lot of joy in late spring, and it's reliable and tough and vigorous. I hope I never lose it. I could love this rose for the rest of my life.

This is spring #3 for Guirland d'Amour. It's finally gaining a little steam. Sometimes the flowers are more double than this, which I prefer on this particular plant. It ha very flexible, thin canes. Since I planted it too close to my fence, it tends to snag itself on and through the metal grid and stays pretty flat against it instead of bushing out into the border. Not sure how I feel about that just yet. Anyway, here it is just beginning the spring flush, many more flowers to come, I'm sure.

This is Errinerung an Brod. It's very vigorous, growing leaps and bounds every summer, but this is the first year it's retained its cane over the winter. It's rather wildly shaped and snags itself and others with its curves thorns. The blooms are beautiful, but it's certainly not my more floriferous rose yet, hopefully this improves, because look at those stunners! Who wouldn't want more of them? In real life the blooms are just a bit more purple.

Here is year 4 Ispahan just beginning to open the first few flowers. It was clearly separate from the penstemon until a few days ago when the weight of the buds + the wind tangled them up, and now the bush shape isn't really visible anymore. I will update in a few days when the full spring flush is at its peak. Very healthy, very cold hardy, very beautiful. It has handled the weather here better than many, and is one of my most reliable roses. I hope to never be without it.

Wow! So beautiful with the other plants. Your garden is really getting established.

Magpie, hang in there. My Errin, Guirland and George Oliva so far. Mine are older and still improving.

Thank you so much Erasmus, your compliments always mean a lot because I admire your garden so much. I've way over planted and I can't even get to my Sidonie anymore (behind Ispahan) because the way is totally blocked lol, but I don't have the heart to cut anything back until the blooming is done 😅

Sheila your errin. an brod is SO MUCH more floriferous than mine! Oh yours is lovely, thank you for showing it :) I love your garden.

Year 3 Constance Spry, looking and smelling so very lovely as it makes its way up the arch, and hopefully one day goes over the top! Bees love this one and so so I.

Here it is with Etoile Violette clematis on the other side.

Left has Mme. Plantier, behind it is Great Maiden's Blush, a baby Morgengruss, in the middle of the arch is a baby William Lobb, and then Constance Spry on the right.

The full bush shot of Ispahan, Sidonie starting to bloom behind it.