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OLD roses (sorry, no pics!)

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

I notice a lot of recent posts have been about David Austin roses. That's fine, we're a broad church here, but I though I would mention, name dropping, a few of the once-flowering, seemingly unfashionable old roses that are currently in bloom in my garden.

Along the edge of the Small Orto, a rose-laden mountain of 'Maiden's Blush', suckering out on one side and smothering a forsythia on the other. That's quite a feat. We'd already constructed a little pergola to keep it off the path, and will extend it for the suckering bits. I need to thin it--it hasn't been pruned for a few years--and get it off the forsythia, which I appreciate for its early spring blast of yellow and general courage. In the bottom of the Small Orto, 'De la Maitre-Ecole', five or six feet tall and wide, suckering out. It has mildew, which doesn't particularly bother it, but the blooms, pink-magenta-lilac-purple-gray, large and loose, are wonderful. A wonderful rose, with no thorns to speak of. Next to it, crawling around on the ground, is 'Tuscany' or 'Tuscany Superb' or 'Haddington'. I received it as 'Tuscany' but think that's wrong, or, at least, it looks identical to my 'Tuscany Superb'. Great color, but I should have cut out old canes. It's tangling with a peony or two, hellebores, bulbs, geraniums.

Continuing on from 'De la Maitre-Ecole' is 'Blanc de Vibert'. This was planted in a dank, dark corner way back around 2004 and has never bloomed well: it has a reputation as a difficult variety. I let it go up and up in its attempt to reach the sun, caging it a couple of years ago so we could walk around and under it: it forms a nice arch beneath which we walk, ducking slightly, to reach the door of the ambitiously named Tea House. 'Blanc de Vibert', at about ten feet by twelve, in spite of the usual large portion of aborted buds, this year is blooming rather nicely. Perhaps it's happy at last. Behind it, in an even darker and danker corner, is 'Celestial', another rose that has also has never done well here. It, too, has struggled up to the light; suckered, too, and pops up its soft pink blooms here and there, looking for a favorable spot to grow.

Out in the big garden, close to the road and the group of Leyland cypresses that DH came home with years ago and insisted on planting, are the group of 'Orpheline de Juillet' a thorny mound studded with purple blooms, 'Rote Krimrose', taller and stiffer than its neighbor, about which I wrote possibly libelous (or is it slanderous?) negative comments on this forum a year or two ago, but which is now looking tolerably like an acceptable old rose. Then R. hemisphaerica and its soft yellow blooms, contrasting nicely with the pink and purple of its neighbors. I wish it would put out some new growth. More roses going down the line, but the big group is at the bottom of the slope where water find its way: some Albas, 'Paul Ricault', which I find coarse but which is pretty overwhelming in bloom, a tall Damask ('Celsiana'?? I forget), and others. There are way too many puny varieties, and there are varieties that aren't puny but are hidden in the grass. The ones at the top are favored, I believe, by having trees close by and being less exposed to the elements.

The grass has been utterly overwhelming this year. DH, now eighty-seven, has been heroically mowing it down, which at least allows me to see these roses, though even mown we're oh so far! from velvet cut grass. Everything is messy, everywhere. We're in the grass phase of development of our land, good for fertility but inconvenient, and I hope one day we'll move on to shrubs and trees. I would like to add that seeing a rose called July's Orphan in bloom in May is not cheering. We're a month ahead of schedule. I fear it's going to be a long summer.

Comments (7)

  • 4 years ago

    I love these garden musings, Melissa! I could echo everything you are doing. Our OGRs are almost starting here because we have had a cold Spring. We are fighting and giving in to grasses here and I think they are helping improve soil fertility. My husband just bought an electric lawn mower to help. He has a mini tractor too.

    We had Arizona Cypress and Leyland Cypress stealing water and nutrients from some roses. It started with our starting irrigation. Before that the trees were fine but then they took it all from the roses. The trees thinned out are better here. Everything is messy here.

  • 4 years ago

    Messy. MESSY. I was down in the Serbian Bed yesterday, after DH mowed behind and in front of it. He did a noble job, except that at one point he cut through the bed because he couldn't tell where the boundary was, although I had flagged it at the other end and thought it was safe. He got a young own root 'Mme. Zoetmans' I had planted last winter and that had been doing nicely, cutting it down to the soil. I wouldn't bet on its coming back, and it is such a lovely rose. Otherwise, a good job, and now I can walk along the line of roses, admiring them and looking at what's going on. I definitely need to do some rejuvenation pruning. I was scrambling down on the ground beneath the taller roses, shearing grass, that bane sticky bedstraw, and bindweed, and just having a look.at the underside of these mounds of bloom.

    I know about the terrible reputation of Leyland Cypress; don't have any Arizona Cypress, though they're common around here. They suffer much abuse in the way of pruning and unsuitable placement, but are noble trees in the right situation. We have two Leyland cypresses flanking the first ditch, planted where they'd get water and left to grow naturally. Both have roses growing close to their bases: one, the Banksiae hybrid 'Purezza', the other, an Ayrshire rambler. A dozen years after planting trees and roses, the roses are holding their own. Of course, the roses also have access to the water and nutrients of the ditch, and, what may be important, they've grown and established their roots along with the trees, rather than having to compete with established plants. The cypress with the Ayrshire rambler at its base, which should be coming into bloom soon, also has a visitor from next door, a pink Multiflora rambler that has scrambled up from its eleagnus and into the cypress. The rose may be 'Tausenschoen'; it certainly is a vigorous and happy variety. It's fun the see the roses fifteen or twenty feet in the air peering down from the dark green foliage.

    Sheila, you have such treats in store as your garden matures.

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you for your kind thoughts, Melissa. Our rainfall is 20 inches or so per year. I think that is a difference here. We had 41 days of 100 F or above last Summer although other years it was 14-21. I think that was why the trees got so greedy was the emitters on the roses were irresistible. I know you don't irrigate thank god because it is a huge hassle along with a great blessing.

    My husband could do these mowing things too because he does not know my plants on the intimate level that I do. I know they are there even if they are temporarily buried.

  • 4 years ago

    Sheila are all of those from this year?!?! I can’t believe you can be THAT far ahead of me!

    Holy moly, they are all so beautiful. The evening ones are so evocative…

    And my barn…😍😍😍

  • 4 years ago

    These were yesterday oursteelers. Blooming has started here. Thank you.

  • 4 years ago

    Sheila, the size of your roses is astonishing to me. Good digging! Irrigation! I do think the regular water helps, though, as you say, it's a pain to do. Your garden is beautiful.

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