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Rose Paradise, very disappointed

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

I bought a Paradise and Tiffany in February. When Paradise first bloomed last month, it looked good and I had great expectation.

However, that was the end. The center of flower never opened. In stead, it turned into brown. The petals also shrink and turned yellowish. The whole flower looked so sad. Afterwards there were 2 blooms, and they were even worse. They did not reach the stage of first bloom and were just a soggy brown ball.

Fortunately Tiffany was doing great. The flowers look great either half open or full open. And it blooms a lot. It is still lacking the strong fragrance which I was expecting. But I can wait for it to mature. My Julia Child now has stronger scent after 2 years in ground.

Tiffany (left) and Paradise (right). I will still let Paradise to stay this year but might have to move it to a different spot.

I'm wondering if anyone is growing Paradise and having the same trouble?

Thanks,

Comments (28)

  • 4 years ago

    I have a brand new Paradise with its first bud close to opening. So I will let you know how mine looks.

    But I would give it a lot more time. I have found that on some roses those first blooms aren't true to what they will be and subsequent bloo.s are much better .

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Thanks Kristine! I certainly hope it will catch up later. But I did a search on the forum and people seem to have a lot of complaints on Paradise so I am a bit worried. Please do post yours when it is blooming. Wish yours will do much better.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I think your Paradise will get better as the plant matures…young plants don’t often have the reserves to pull off beautiful blooms.

    I don’t think your Tiffany is the real thing. I believe you posted before, but now I see the whole plant:

    1. Too many clusters for Tiffany, which is almost always one to a stem.

    2. Color is too coral

    3. If you had such a healthy Tiffany with that many blooms, you definitely wouldn’t be complaining about lack of scent!

    Yours looks more like the floribunda Cherish, or something similar. It looks very nice in your garden.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks so much, Ben. Your comments about Tiffany definitely makes sense. I went to search Tiffany's pictures and see mine are different, in color and cluster form. I have been wondering why my Tiffany is so healthy and waiting for the black spots to show (I don't spray nor plan to do so). We are at east coast with humid and warm spring/summer. I keep thinking I or Tiffany could not be so lucky.


    My "Tiffany" does look like Cherish, color and form wise. I'm very happy for having this plant. Now my next goal is to find a true pink and fragrant rose.


    Meanwhile I'll also pray for Paradise to get mature. The bad form might also be caused by the recent rains.


    Many thanks, Changsong

  • 4 years ago

    That is absolutely not 'Tiffany'.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked User
  • 4 years ago

    Agree with Ben and Paul that your rose isn't Tiffany. But it's great that you like it and it's doing so well for you!

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked susan9santabarbara
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    After week’s of rain, Paradise look better.



  • 4 years ago

    My Paradise open while I was inside with Covid. But there is another bloom ready to open. I hope to catch this one. Unless of course I get the Monkey pox and miss it again.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago

    Oh Kristine I hope you recovered well from Covid. And your paradise will bloom beautifully for you!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    In the 90 degree heat, Paradise blooms hold up well. They are almost solid lilac / purple color without variegation. no scent still.




  • 4 years ago

    I finally have several blooms and they are beautiful. Mo problems so far. I sure hope that yours improves for you.


    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago

    Kristine, your bloom is very beautiful and it keeps the variegation well. Is it fragrant?

  • 4 years ago

    Forever, your Paradise is looking beautiful

    As for fragrance, hard to tell. Since Covidy sense of smell had been slow to return.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago

    I start to love this rose.



  • 4 years ago

    Yay, im so happy that she is starting to wow

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago

    Your Tiffany looks like Tournament of Roses.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked SuSu CT 7a
  • 4 years ago

    The title of this discussion is: Rose Paradise, very disappointed.


    Just now, I read through all the comments.


    The take home message seems to be: Paradise Postponed.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 4 years ago

    well said rifis. Also it is suprising that the blooms gain color variegation one day after they were open.

  • 4 years ago

    Paradise has no scent.

    But Paradise Found is in my top three favorite scents!

    Carla in Sac

  • 4 years ago

    Carla, what an exceptional rose

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 4 years ago

    It only looks like that when it's cool and first day of bloom. Then the pink spreads, and it looks closer to Paradise.

    But I eagerly look forward to them every year!

    Carla in Sac

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked sautesmom Sacramento
  • 4 years ago

    Oh, Carla....I so agree!!! I loved Paradise Found when I had it. It's my avatar picture. It's on my unicorn list to get it again. :) Yours is stunning!!!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Carla, that is so beautiful, amazing!

  • 4 years ago
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    Paradise is blooming in 95 degree heat. It looks like it actually enjoys the heat.

    I like how deep the out magenta color is and how it fades inside.

    it does not have the best bush form, probably due to lack of pruning. I still get unsure about trimming since there is always another bud showing up

    Overall it is healthy in our hot humid summer. A very little BSs but not bad. leaves are kept very well.

  • 4 years ago

    Your Paradise is really striking

    Im glad that you are liking it.

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 3 years ago

    Getting close to end of season, Paradise is still blooming. The blooms have lost the intense deep magenta color on the edge, still pretty but softer. I can even detect light tea scent nowadays.

    For the whole season it gets almost no black spots and stays clean and healthy.


  • 3 years ago

    Beautiful! :)

    forever_a_newbie_VA8 thanked rosecanadian
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