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Martagon Lilies

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

2.5 years ago, I bought some Martagon lilies. If I remember correctly, they were 3 for $12.50 and since I can't decide, I got all four types. Rather than plant them in a bunch, I decided to spread them out throughout the yard, since they can be a bit temperamental in soggy soil and I wanted to give them the best chance to survive. Now they're starting to look good. The weird thing is now that I'm updating my garden map, it looks like I lost two, I have 4 Arabian Knight, 3 Manitoba Morning, 2 Pink Morning and only 1 Sunny Morning (luckily, I found a pot of 4 at a local nursery that I snagged - one turned out to be a different red one (that I didn't get a pic of?!). I wonder if SM is more finicky (or sporting) than the others or just the luck of the draw. And why do I have 4 AKs? I had a little trouble telling it apart from Sunny Morning, but some closer examination and it's not too hard. I suppose it's possible the vendor mixed one up (I doubt this). I vaguely remember there being a small 4th one in one of the bags that I probably planted next to a bigger one. That might explain why I see an AK beside a damaged SM and why I have 4 of them. (And also, more likely I mixed them up while planting. I'm not usually that careless, but shtuff happens). I was wondering if they ever sport, but now that I've written it all out, that seems even less likely. So . . . thanks for letting me sort through my thoughts. Here's some pics for your trouble.

Arabian Knight (Nope, actually Sunny Morning)


Sunny Morning


Manitoba Morning




Pink Morning




I went out to take another look at the two in question and after forcing the flower open it looks like they may both be AK or are they Sunny Morning. It does look a little like either one. - (Yep, It's Arabian Knight)


And this one was supposed to be Sunny Morning, but I guess I goofed.
(No goof here, it really is Sunny Morning).


Now I'm really confusing myself. I took another pic of Sunny Morning (from the new pot I bought) and it looks darker than a previous pic. Can anyone tell the difference between these two?


Comments (31)

  • 4 years ago

    Those are lovely. I have tried s few here…..they havent survived more than three years for me. I’m wondering if the squirrels like them???

    Sherry

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked sherrygirl zone5 N il
  • 4 years ago

    Whatever their names, they are beautiful. I know little about martagons, but I have a few growing in the garden. Here is a picture of my Arabian Knight.


    Nancy

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked hoosier_nan (IN z5b/6a)
  • 4 years ago

    Very pretty!


    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked prairiemoon2 z6b MA
  • 4 years ago

    Those are so pretty...I love the way they grow!

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked erasmus_gw
  • 4 years ago

    Beats me but I love the grace of these in contrast to the stiff upright ones with gigantic flowers. (Had those till the lily beetles put off them) I tried henyrii but who knows what happened to them?

  • 4 years ago

    So lovely. No beetles in your area?

  • 4 years ago

    Lily Beetles (groan), there's always something to worry about but I haven't seen any sign of them yet.

  • 4 years ago

    and since I can't decide, I got all four types.


    ==>> yeah i used to have this disease.. lol .. ken

  • 4 years ago

    I'm still afflicted with that disease lol.


    Your lilies are beautiful. I haven't added any new lilies in years, as I am also afflicted with the dreaded red lily leaf beetle. I still enjoy a few blooms and just cut off the foliage, but in the garden they are ratty and horrible looking. I hope I can grow some beauties like yours again in the future!


    Thank you for sharing your pictures!

    :)

    Dee

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 4 years ago

    Here are a couple more pictures. This first one is a close-up of what I think might be Fairy Morning but I was looking at some photos of Attiwaw and it looks like it could possibly be Attiwaw too but I don't think that's available to buy anywhere at least I haven't found it.

    Is anybody growing either of these?








    My Guinea Golds are opening but it's really hard to get a good pictures because they are all in a fence inside of a fence and I have to twist myself like a pretzel to get a decent shot!









    Thanks for looking...


    Donna

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    LOVE your lilies! LOVE the stone on your house! I am zone 6b, a little north of Boston, but I have different types of lilies and they are not ready to bloom yet. I guess I should think about adding Martagon Lilies. I have a species, a Trumpet, Tiger Lilies and a couple of Hybrids. I assume it is the type of lily as the reason yours are blooming earlier. Your climate can't be all that different on the South Shore, right?

    And Steve in Ohio is in 6a and his are blooming early as well!

    Beautiful!

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked prairiemoon2 z6b MA
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Hi prairiemoon2

    Nice to meet you! Yes, martagons bloom much earlier which makes it so nice as it extends the season! My other lilies won't be showing their faces for the better part of a month so these are very welcomed! I would say that our climates are the same. I'm just a little north of Plymouth.

    So far, we've been spared the lily beetle but I keep my eyes pealed. Chipmunks are my nemesis! We've got fences everywhere to protect my husband's rhododendrons from deer but you can't keep a chipmunk out!!

    I've got two more martagon varieties (new this year) to bloom and they are in a different section of the yard and appear to be really retarded. It will be a week or more for one and the other the buds are so small I think they may shrivel up. But they say that the first year for martagons they may sulk in the ground and all of mine have grown and shown flowers so I guess I'm lucky!

    Donna


    Nancy your Arabian Night is lovely!! Mine is new with just a few flowers but I can see from yours and other pictures on the internet that they can form huge candelabras!

  • 4 years ago
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    Hi Donna, Very familar with that area near Plymouth, did some vacationing there growing up. Chimpunks? [g] [I misspelled it but maybe it fits...lol] I am just starting to see an increase in the chipmunk population. Do they eat the Lily buds? Are the Martagons fragrant by any chance? I love the candelabra form!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Hi,

    I don't find that all of them (the ones I have at least) are particularly fragrant but that may be to their still small size. The largest I have is Guinea Gold and that one is noticeably fragrant but it was last year also. I would label the fragrance a spicy rose scent while my husband calls it a musty rose. Pleasant and not offending.

    Now for the chipmunks! Last year I had this huge gorgeous lily called Shine On that bloomed prolifically inside this ugly cage to keep the deer and rabbits away. After just being away for a few hours we came home one day and this is what we found.







    This lily was nearly 6ft tall!

    We were heartbroken! This was done during the day while the chipmunks were running all around the yard. The holes in the fence were large enough to keep a rabbit out so there was nobody left to blame but the chipmunks. They did this to another lily too. They picked my most beautiful ones.

    Now, we plant the bulbs with hardware cloth (the really fine stuff) down about 5 inches around he hole with the larger gage wire around that!! The rest of my lilies now go in my fenced in hydrangea pen with only the hardware cloth to keep "someone" from tunneling into the ground to eat the bulbs.

    I really envy people who post pictures of their beautiful lilies spread around the yard being able to take full advantage of their beauty. A portion of our side yard backs up to acres of conservation land and everything you can think of comes out of those woods!

    Donna


    This lily actually came back this year after being cut of while still in bloom but the stalks are only half the size they were and I may even get a few flowers. Amazing...!




  • 4 years ago
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    Martagon lily Guinea Gold is out in full force now! This is its second year.







    Sorry for so many pictures!!

    I picked a stalk about a week ago and brought it in the house and it's still going strong, opening all the flowers up to the top. The only problem is that the scent seems to be getting stronger and more musty the longer it's in the house!!

    Donna

  • 4 years ago

    Chimppunks - I love it. We have them too, but they don't seem to damage the plants (yet). Now the dogs chasing the punks is another story. I just planted a tall lily - Conca D'Or - but its only 3-4 feet. Guess I'll have to keep looking for a taller one, lol. My shorter Asiatics are just starting to bloom here.


    Donna, I love your other Martagons, especially your noid and your Guinea Gold is what I want Sunny Morning to be so it's not so similar to Arabian Knight. I can tell the difference now and I have more SMs than I thought (and less AKs). I may need to start looking for more variety.

    I love that these bloom early and last for a long time. They don't seem to be deer food and I notice their fragrance wafting in the breeze more than sticking my nose in a single flower. I'd agree with the spicy rose, not musty to me at all.

  • 4 years ago
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    Steve, When we bought our Conca D'Or potted up from a nursery last season it was barely 3 ft tall but now in the ground it appears to be slightly over 4 ft and really sturdy. I hope it's as lovely as last year.

    If its tall you want, try Anastasia or Robina, or Scheherazade! It's their second year and I guess they like snuggling up to the stone wall! Still got several weeks to go. That's Anastasia reaching for the second story from the ground! Of course, there are others too, one of my second year Silk Roads is over 6 ft.



    As for the martagons I need some of the deep reds. I love your Manitoba Morning and Russian

    Morning looks great too as well as Claude Shride. Have you seen Alberta Morning? The lily garden had it for sale but by the time I saw it it was sold out.

    This is from their website..



    This is a must have too!!

    Donna

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 4 years ago

    Hello again,

    Here we have a first blooming of Peppard's Gold. I think the color is a little more saturated than Guinea Gold at least so far it appears to be. This is blooming later than my others as it's in a more shady part of the yard. The color is definitely more gold than Guinea Gold. But I will say that Guinea Gold is a strong grower and I don't doubt that this will be too. I really like it!


    Donna






    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 4 years ago

    Nice, I wonder if its flower gets darker like Sunny Morning does.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks for all the photos! Just lovely.

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 4 years ago

    How many are you (any of you) planting together? I'm embarassed to say I don't know how they grow nor how the multiply. Above ground does the candlelabra just get bigger and have more stems and flowers? What's happening underground if the bulbs are happy? My ignorance astonishes me.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Marie,


    I usually plant 3 to 5 of the same variety together about 8 to 10 inches apart if you can manage it. The individual stems get bigger and taller each year and if happy, they will slowly multiply underground and suddenly you'll see 6 stalks emerging where you only planted 3. It doesn't happen overnight so don't worry that they'll get too crowded. The candelabra will get larger each year and produce more flowers! 😁

    My Guinea Golds are just on their second year and doing very well. I think Guinea Gold is a really good doer.

    Most of my martagons are in a small garden patch adjacent to an old stone foundation held together with cement that over the decades has leached into the soil to sweeten it. Martagons would love some lime so if you can get ahold of a few cups without having to buy a bag as heavy as cement, mix some in the soil where you plant them.

    I think that the bulbs are starting their multiplication underground in the fall, (the sooner you can get them in the better) (of course, that depends on when they arrive,) so they'll have a chance to get their roots going. Every website that sells them warns that they might not come up the next spring and not to fret but I've never had that happen. Some of them may be smaller but they've all come up and produced some flowers. We have sandy loam which is good as it doesn't hold water.

    Don't fret about your ignorance about martagons, because when I ordered my first batch I actually didn't realize what I was buying and when they came up in the spring with these strange leaves, we both though they'd sent the wrong thing and I had fritillaria! I was actually looking forward to my fritillaria and wondering whether they'd be orange or yellow!! Surprise, surprise, they were lilies after all!!

    Donna

    steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 2 years ago

    Here we are in 2024 and I just thought I'd add this picture of Red Path on its first bloom.

    Sort of a red with some pink in it. This bloom is really small but I think that since it is the first year that's to be expected. I guess I'm lucky I actually got flowers this soon!!



  • 2 years ago

    Nice! Keep the pics coming

  • 2 years ago

    Ive never seen Redpath on any website and i‘ ve been looking diligently.

    where did you find it?

  • 2 years ago

    I have candleabra lilies but I don't know if they are Martagon or not. The blooms on one are pretty small, like yours. They are VERY pretty! I was all set to grow lots of lilies once the Red Lily Beetle was gone, then the rabbits started eating mine. This year, they haven't eaten them, thankfully and they should be blooming soon, I have Orientpet varieties and Casa Blanca, not sure what variety that is, and at least one candlelabra but, I don't know if that will bloom this year. The rabbits ate it to the ground and it came back but I don't see a flower bud on it yet.

    I guess I've got a freeze on buying more lilies until I get something that works to keep the rabbits away from my plants.

  • 2 years ago

    I understand Marie, and I'm not complaining, just explaining why although I'm interested in Martagon Lilies, I'm not adding them at this time. And no I haven't got around to trying Liquid Fence yet and I did try Plantskdd that didn't help. Nor did cayenne pepper. And this year for some reason, the rabbits haven't touched my lilies. And right now I have rabbits making homes in my raised vegetable beds, despite having a dog in the yard that is always chasing them.

  • 2 years ago

    Marie, I got my Red Paths last fall from Faraway Gardens. Unfortunately they have now closed their shop so I feel lucky to have bought these when I had the chance. They also offered many other rare and hard to find martagons from Canada which I didn't buy thinking I had all the time in the world to buy a couple each year. I bought 2 bulbs and it appears that one sent up 2 stems which are quite short but with a good amount of flowers and the second bulb sent up one stem which was considerably taller again with a good amoung of flowers. I have high hopes for Red Path in the future when the bulbs really get established. This was the first year for them and the fact that they bloomed so well was very incouraging!!....Donna

  • 2 years ago
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    i am so disappointed Faraway Gardens closed before i discovered it. googling Redpath led me there. i spent an hour searching for an eqivalent US nursery but each has just a few varieties and not extensive offerings. what i want to know is how one can order early enough to procure ”Snowy Morning” Maybe bribe someone? it seems to sell out before it is listed.

  • 2 years ago

    Last season we planted 2 Snowy Mornings from Solaris Farms. I planted 5 different varieties buying 2 of each. Only one Snowy Morning put up a thick strong stem loaded with flowers; the other may be one of several that just sent up a small stem with no flowers. Here are some pictures unfortunately behind fences which makes it difficult to photograph and admire them. I am very pleased with this variety and if I had the chance I'd buy Snowy Morning again. Unfortunately they are all crammed in a hole that is too small sandwhiched between two Gay Lights! I can't believe the number of flowers for a first year bloom!!...Donna