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Need help designing natural screen using plants

4 years ago

Please help. The property next door recently sold. We are in the process of creating a privacy screen using large shrubs and trees. Most of the trees could be cut down. So we are trying to be proactive in case that happens. The property line is about 75 feet. We currently have the following planted (from left to right)

1 linebacker distylium

5 formosa azaleas magenta color

3 g g gerbing azaleas white

3 tea olives

1 oak leaf holly

2 grey ghost anise.


we also have 7 staggered crepe myrtles in front of the above shrubs. the crepe myrtles are about 1 foot tall but will eventually reach 25 ft.


i also have the following that i plan to plant soon

6 rose creek abelia

3 rocket barberry (impulse buy)

6 firepower nandina

1 snoball viburnum

1 podocarpus ’maki’


I wanted to surround the crepe myrtles with 3 abelia, 3 barberries or 3 nandinas with the barberry bushes in the center.


Is it too much? I welcome any and all suggestions.

thank you!



Comments (16)

  • 4 years ago

    Your plant choices imply "south" but please give us a hint to your location (nearest big city & state). Thanks.

    It sounds like you're planning a wall of mixed shrubbery along the tree line. Would you consider adding an island bed on the lawn closer to your home?

  • 4 years ago

    Yes. South Carolina. Zone 8. 28 miles north of Augusta, Ga.

  • 4 years ago
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    i created a natural screen perhaps a dozen years ago, but my plant choices won’t help you since am in such a different climate.

    But here are some things to conside that I learned:

    - Check for invasiveness (will seed unchecked into wild areas where it displaces natives as well as into other gardens) in your area. For instance, barberry is a listed invasive in much of the eastern part of the US, and check out nandina’s status as well.

    - Use a combo of evergreen and deciuous for all year interest. Do you want flowers or foliage contast in this bed or just green?

    - Research and plan spacing carefully. Plant tags and nurseries often give plant size at 5 or 10 years. Use botanical gardens and universities in similar growing zones for reference. I love the Missouri Botanic Garden, even though it is warmer, drier, and less acidic than my central NH location because their info is thorough and accurate.

    - Consider having plants a couple of rows deep, staggered. This will give you better coverage.

    - Think about height. Are there plants or areas you might want to shade or avoid shading? If the trees are all cut down, will you need to consider blocking a tall building or lighting that might replace the woods?

    - Keep a close eye on water needs since you are planting now. Actually check soil moisture so you don’t overwater or underwater.

    - Also, don’t let the weeds get out of control. You may want to plant low flowering plants to reduce weeds and provide interest while the larger plants gain size over the first few years.

    Here is a link to a thread where (about half ways down) I talked about my process and has a few photos.

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/3113384/shrubs-for-privacy-along-a-fence

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you so much NHBabs, Your screen is gorgeous! It’s what I’m trying to achieve . Thank you for taking pictures in stages. Visualizing landscape is very difficult for me. As for the invasive plants, firepower Nandina and orange rocket barberry ##18,411 are supposed to be noninvasive. But some of the info online is contradictory.

    • I would like to add some low maintenance flowers. I love the way you added flowers in your screen. But me and the deer have the same taste in flowers. Lantana is the only flower that blooms well in my yard that they do not nibble.
      -The only thing that can be built next door is a home. The struggle will be the shock of losing the wood line. So I’m trying to add a 20 ft high line of plants behind the azaleas. So far I have a little gem magnolia and a podocarpus maki. Both are supposed to grow at least 20 feet. I also wanted to add 2 conifers ( conifer-magnolia-conifer-podocarpus). I like the emerald thuja but it may not be tall enough and the green giants are too tall.

    I was able to get a landscaper out yesterday. He planted the 6 abelia, 3 barberry and a snowball viburnum,. I also added 6 Nandina and 1 small lantana for color.

    I’ll post pics soon.

    Thank you for your advice and taking time to respond.

  • 4 years ago

    Cecile 7 a ,
    I have an island bed on the opposite side of my yard and a wildflower/perennial garden in the back. I wanted to build up this side of my property just in case the new property owners next door decide to cut down every tree.

  • 4 years ago

    *Cecily 7a
    Sorry spell check

  • 4 years ago

    Property line with new shrubs planted. The deer have already started eating on the snowball viburnum.

  • 4 years ago

    I'm suggesting that a small tree or two closer to your house would provide better visual screening than a shrub border at a distance. Your grass is lovely by the way so perhaps you only want lawn there.

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    4 years ago

    MO wait until they new neighbors take the trees out or not since removing those will mkae mess of whatever you plant right now .For sure you need to get deer resistant plants . Where I live we use barberry to keep the deer at bay. I think if it was my place I would do a fence inside the property line and see what happens to the trees then do some landscaping since right now those trees are giving shade that if gone will affect what you plant.

  • 4 years ago

    Just a general suggestion where deer are a problem. In addition to choosing plants that deer in general don't like, always spray your new plants with a good deer deterrent. The will try anything new and you absolutely want their first experience with a plant to be a bad one. They remember. Also, if you don't sometimes they develop a taste for plants that they are absolutely not supposed to like. In addition, if the plant is small, that first bite can pretty much do the plant in, even pulling it out of the ground before they spit it ut.


    If the new shrubs/trees are quite small, I also put a physical barrier around them as well as spraying so they can get some size on them before being available for that taste test. Especially important through the first winter. I rig up protection using deer netting, sticks, hoops, whatever works.

  • 4 years ago

    Makes sense Laceyvail. My deer tastes everything I put in the ground. Even the so called deer resistant plants. In the past I would only spray the plants that were vulnerable. But I will spray everything from here on out. Especially when it’s new. Thank you for the tip. Oh and I will definitely put up a physical barrier on my snowball viburnum. Once it gets tall it should be ok.

  • 4 years ago

    Cecily I will think about adding a small tree. I kind of feel the front yard needs one. I’ve been reluctant to add one because we are surrounded by trees on 3 sides and I wanted to keep the sunshine on the front and I grew up raking leaves and vowed I would never rake another leaf when I grew up!

  • 4 years ago

    And Patricia waiting to until the trees are cut down is exactly what the people who work at the nursery suggested. My gut tells me that you are right. They are building like crazy in my neighborhood even though it’s rural. Some of my neighbors built natural screens using shrubs years ago. So when the trees are cut down next to there property there is a natural barrier in place. Other neighbors that have nothing in place go into shock when the trees are removed. They quickly plant anything to fill in the nakedness. So I’m trying to be proactive. The builders are supposed to leave a 3 foot buffer on either side of the property and 7 feet in the back. However, they are cutting every single tree and the hoa is not opposed. (They cut every tree on our property too. But on the back and the right side of the property there is a strip of land that belongs to the golf course that they couldn’t touch)

    Also, even though the property line is wooded it’s on the east side of my property and it gets hot afternoon sun. The only thing that can survive/thrive in that section are full sun plants. I learned the hard way. I purchased 3 grey ghost anise to plant beside the house which I assumed was shaded all day. One had to be moved because midday it was being baked for about an hour.

    So I said all that to say Patricia you are probably right. But I don’t want to come home from work one day and go into shock when every tree up to the property line is gone.

  • 4 years ago

    Lacyvail, you were right. I didn’t spray my moonlit viburnum because it’s deer resistant. The deer ate all the flowers off last night ugh!!!! I will spray everything from now on.

  • 4 years ago

    Your neighbor's azaleas are wonderful! I'm glad you included azaleas in your border as well.