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Restoring Old Steel/Metal Windows - Worth it? Resources?

4 years ago

We purchased a campground to provide work programs for developmentally disabled adults (like our daughter, who is vaccine injured and requires lifelong assistance). The main lodging building (that makes the most money) is in dire need of window upgrades, as they are from the 40s/50s and let all the things in (wind, water, snow, bugs).


Is affordable restoration possible? If so, how? These windows are IN the block, so they will be quite a bit of labor if we restore, and also if we replace. Some are falling, some are not.


I would love to keep them because there have been 5 generations of campers at this campground, so it is a local treasure.



Comments (13)

  • 4 years ago

    What's failing? Is the metal bent or rusting to the point of failure? Is the caulking between the glass and the frame dried up and cracking (this is an easiish fix)? Or are the windows sol8d, but no longer fitting well into the wall because of shifting?

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    So sorry to hear about your daughter. Covid Vaccine injury?


    I think it is commendable, what you are doing there. Where is this camp located?


    With regards to the restoration question, it will depend, in large part, on the nature of the failure. There are some things that can more cost effectively be fixed, others not.


    Feel free to ping me directly with pictures of the windows in question: enovotny@windowsonwashington.net



  • 4 years ago

    The glass frames are not all working and are falling in some... The others, it seems they need to be cleaned, stripped, resealed and repainted.

  • 4 years ago
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    Typical steel framed utility/commercial type windows. They get replaced here all the time as they sweat awfully and the glass is single pane so not energy efficient at all. They are repairable but an awful lot of work. Area dependent they may not be worth putting in the time and effort. Seasonal camp with no real HVAC needs it may be worth it to you however.

  • 4 years ago

    @millworkman We are year round and have minisplits with AC and Heat as well as gas fireplaces. We currently created a way to put plastic inserts into the openings on the inside to stop drafts.

  • 4 years ago
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    I would look into replacing the units then as opposed to repairing them as once repaired you will still have 70 year old non-thermal steel with single glass, just cleaned up and painted. That is just my .02.

  • 4 years ago

    I didn't understand your answer. You have metal frames (are they in good shape?), glass panes, some sort of caulking/glazing compound between the glass and the frames, and whole thing stuck into a hole in the wall.


    I have 100 year old windows with wood frames in good condition, thick glass in good condition and the beginning of failure of the glazing putty. I have one cheapo replacement window that was not placed well into the wall, so despite being a modern, double-paned window, it is not any better than the original windows.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    An interior storm (something like the push in units) will work, but I find they are darn near the price of a good window. At that point, @millworkman is spot on that its is probably better to just do a phased replacement.

  • 4 years ago

    We have decided to use window screens from Menards (https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/door-window-hardware/screen-tools-hardware/adfors-5-16-metal-screen-frame-kits/fcs10766-m/p-1478154108387-c-7580.htm)


    And double polished Marine-grade vinyl:

    https://www.marinevinylfabric.com/products/clear-marine-vinyl?variant=32059618721876


    With weather stripping to create a knock off of Window Inserts.


    It will cost $1,455 for all the windows, plus we will have some left over for windows in other buildings until we have the budget to replace. :)

  • 4 years ago

    @Windows on Washington Ltd - She was injured at 14 months (MMR, Dtap) and will require lifelong care, so the camp will provide work programs and we will have offsite housing (2 bedroom 1 bath cabins) that they will pay for, own and live in with their job income.


    We are located in Falmouth KY (www.laurelbend.org/about).


    I will go take pictures. It is hard to see them because the issues are mainly visible from the inside and they are all covered right now.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Thank you for what you do and the servant heart that you are demonstrating. I wish you all the success in your mission to help others and serve others. It is commendable and a testament to your faith.


    Your storm window idea should sort of work and especially if you build a frame for them to fit into that is mildly airtight.

  • 4 years ago

    My old window guy remarked that storms on the outside of windows helps preserve the window. Storms are why most of our 100 year old wood windows are in good shape.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    I would be concerned about using that sceen track from Menards as they are rather flimsy. How do you plan to fasten the marine glazing, dont think it will go into the spline groove and it will also shrink and would probaly bow the screen frame.