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Looking for help with staining maple

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hello!
We're looking for help/advice on staining maple. We're under construction and will be staining the kitchen island and hood trim. Wood is maple and will be staining a light natural, blonde color. The carpenter normally uses Minwax oil modified water base and we've come up with a custom color we're happy with (believe he mixes brown/white/clear). We really want to avoid any yellow/orange undertones. While we're happy with the sample, our concern is whether we'll see those undesired undertones with time. I've read discussions that recommend a product such as Loba UV protect, and Loba 2k Supra (my understanding is there are 3 tiers Easy/WS/AT). Both carpenter and painter have said that all products nowadays are supposed to have some sort of UV protection, and that regardless, with time that protection will wear off and there will be natural and gradual color change in the wood. I wasn't able to find info on UV protect in the oil modified version, but the water based Minwax does not appear to have UV protection. We've asked whether there is an additive that could be used with the Minwax but haven't really gotten a clear answer on that.
It sounds like he's willing to use whatever product we desire. We understand some color change will occur with time. The concern, however, is whether the change in color will bring out yellow/orange undertones.
Any suggestions/advice is much appreciated!

Comments (6)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Test your samples first and you may need a prep for the wood before you apply the stain. Why isn't this being accomplished inside a woodworker's shop? On-site staining and finishing can really be a problem with control of the space.

    Jess R thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • 3 years ago

    @Verbo Thanks. I've heard that about dye and maple but am unfamiliar with these processes and the carpenter seems to be most comfortable with stain.


    @BeverlyFLADeziner Thanks for your response. Sorry for the confusion. Our home is under construction. We're not doing the work ourselves and I trust the professionals doing it are taking into account a controlled environment and proper prep. Trying not to step on their toes, but also trying to stay informed so that we're making decisions that we'll be happy with long-term.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO you buy maple that has been finished in the factory if you want a stain at all. I think just do a clear coat in as good a non yellowing material as possible . Maple does not take stain nicely . I have had lots of experience with Italian case goods that are dyed in awesome colors but not cheaps and mostly birdseye maple. Why are you stainoing this really nice wood that is already blond? All woods change color over time BTW

    Jess R thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 3 years ago

    @Patricia Colwell Consulting thanks for your response. That's a good question. We don't necessarily want to stain it. We just told him we wanted a light natural blonde color without yellow/orange tones and showed him some photos, and that's what he came up with. I had mentioned that I'd heard of mixing a little white paint to cut the yellow. The first sample was on poplar and I was happy with that. It had very little color, slightly pink undertone which I don't mind at all. When I inquired about seeing it on maple since that's the wood being used, the same formula looked like it had been painted with pink paint, not naturally colored. So he adjusted and it looks closer to the poplar sample now, but leaning slightly toward the yellow/orange end of the spectrum. Either way, I'm fairly pleased with the color on the sample maple board (does look slightly uneven/blotchy, but not sure if that's just on the color sample as I think he was just trying to come up with color at this point) but am concerned if those yellow undertones would become more pronounced over time as the wood ages. I'm ok with some color change and understand it's inevitable, just really want to avoid yellow/orange as much as possible.

    Would you recommend upgrading to a higher end water based (Bona, Loba) in order to avoid any oil at all (as in the oil modified Minwax he's using) but not sacrifice durability (as in Minwax water based)? Do the products such as Loba UV protect that I've seen recommended on other posts not really help all that much? That's the impression I got from the carpenter and painter. They basically said that no matter what you use it will amber with time. I suppose with time if the color change is undesirable, it would just be time to refinish. I wondered if having some color mixed in as the current formula does might help mask the change, as opposed to leaving completely natural, but not sure whether that's the case.

    Appreciate your help

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Poplar takes stain much differently than maple you get himt to show you this on maple like the one you have. and if it looks splotchy on the sample be awre it will look even worse when done on all the cabinets

    Jess R thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Jess R thanked BeverlyFLADeziner