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Rose sport and d reversion

3 years ago

I made a little video talking about these two. Is there anything that I should have added, or not have said?
https://youtu.be/cXLq9fd7CCQ
Thanks in advance
Brandon

Comments (16)

  • 3 years ago

    Embarrassing to whom - a mad scientist?

    Brandon Garner thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 3 years ago

    I cannot put thoughts in his head, but I have always guessed that he meant to himself.


    Jackie

    Brandon Garner thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 3 years ago

    To illustrate, here is a picture of a sport, 'Mme Joseph Schwartz' reverting back to the rose it sported from, 'Duchesse de Brabant'. This bush started out as MJS, and was planted in the mid 1970s. The photo was taken about 45 years later (although I had noticed that part of it had "reverted" several years before I took this pic). You can see that the central part of the bush has white blooms (MJS), while on the far right and the far left it has reverted to DdB (pink).


    Jackie




    Brandon Garner thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 3 years ago

    Oops - Houzz got me - trying to post the pic again.

    Jackie




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  • 3 years ago

    Does anyone else have any pictures of a rose which has either sported, or reverted, and which has 2 colors of blooms on one bush. I would love to see them.


    Jackie

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  • 3 years ago

    No pictures, but this past year I had a pink pink bloom on Juno. It was off to one side of the bush, so I'm hoping it is a sport. I suppose I'll find out next year.

    Brandon Garner thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 3 years ago

    I've had a number of Hocus Pocus sport back to Black Beauty and back. One year, I had Hocus Pocus, Black Beauty, and Frisco blooming on one plant! Wish I'd taken a pic, but this may have been even before I owned a digital camera. Frisco is the original, which sported to Black Beauty, which sported to Hocus Pocus. And since then, not in my yard, they have sported to Abracadabra and Simsalabim. There are others.

    Brandon Garner thanked susan9santabarbara
  • 3 years ago

    Would love to see a picture of it, if it is still there next year. BTW, which of the several roses named Juno listed on HMF do you have?


    Jackie

    Brandon Garner thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 3 years ago

    Susan - I'd have loved to have seen that! :)

    Brandon Garner thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago

    The "reversion sport" of The Green Rose is a curious thing. I wonder how many people still have it? Ralph Moore discovered it many years ago.



    Brandon Garner thanked User
  • 3 years ago

    Somewhere on this forum is there a version of munstead wood to a bright light pink rose. Definitely not a a Weather influenced change. It's stayed on that branch for a while, But I never bothered taking cutting. The main reason I grown ups Munstead wood is for the color is for the color.

    Brandon Garner thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 3 years ago
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    I grow the hybrid china/centifolia Juno. I'm not convinced they aren't the same rose.

    This is what it is supposed to look like.

    and this is what I found last spring



    Brandon Garner thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 3 years ago

    @mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY) both roses are really pretty. I think that I like the pink one better


  • 3 years ago

    Paul - HMF says that in 2006 The Green Rose was proved by DNA analysis to be the same rose as Old Blush, and so obviously a sport of that rose. Could the "reversion sport" you posted a pic of actually be Old Blush, or is it yet another different sport? I love roses which sport a lot, but I must say, of these three, I prefer 'Old Blush'.


    Jackie

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  • 3 years ago

    @jacqueline9CA The "Green Rose Reversion" is unique, in that its a partial reversion to 'Old Blush'. What I mean is that it rarely produces a "normal" looking pink bloom like the photo I posted. Most of the time the blooms look like something halfway between the two types, with malformed petals of an odd "Lucky Elephant" pink coloring, streaked with white and sometimes patches of green, like this:



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