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what ornamental tree (Ulmus?)

3 years ago

hi there


found this in Europe, z7


when walking with the kids


any idea?


thanks a lot, Lin (sorry 2cond attempt, computer ate first attempt...)




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Comments (11)

  • 3 years ago

    Can't help with the tree but is that a healthy Box in the background? Ours are being killed off by the invasive Box Moth. I have seen almost no unaffected shrubs this year. Many complete hedges have been destroyed. All my topiaries were killed this summer.

    linaria_gw thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 3 years ago

    Hi Floral

    yes, healthy box

    we also do have the annoying Box Moth around here,


    eihter they spray it, or, in few cases, there are healthy groups in somewhat isolated spots where they are not bothered so much.


    I know that the communal gardeners do not spray (even though there is a organic Bacillus based pesticide), and recently I found two genormouse box topiary blobs in a slightly neglected park, those were most likely not sprayes.


    in my direct neighbourhood though I watched a box hedge die off this summer, it got eaten and then perhaps had a fungus on top, it did not resprout

    annoying, arent they, I have not found a proper substitute for the otherwise resilient Buxus

  • 3 years ago

    My thought was the same as Embo’s. Leaf shape, bark, tree shape, and autumn color all match to my experience with this tree.

    linaria_gw thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 3 years ago

    I'd agree w/Embo & Babs -- zelkovas can turn red. I'm not familiar w/an Ulmus (elm) that does.

    linaria_gw thanked bengz6westmd
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Among hybrid elms that have been getting planted a lot in later years 'Frontier' turns red

    linaria_gw thanked Embothrium
  • 3 years ago

    hi there

    thank you very much

    I have heard of Zelkova but not really seen it before (or recognized)


    I read up on it and was glad to learn that it is from the Ulmaceae family, so there was some resemblance...

    my trusted nursery cataloge says it can get elm disease too


    and I need to check how draught resistant it is.


    it is supposed to tolerate warm inner city climate well

    thanks, bye, Lin

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    linaria, I don't think zelcova can get DED, or it is at least quite resistant and really not a worry.

    linaria_gw thanked bengz6westmd
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    There’s a big Z carpinifolia in a local park which is very healthy indeed. But there are no Elms left anywhere in town.

    linaria_gw thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    ‘Flekova’ and ‘Village Green’ are considered resistant to Dutch elm disease (DED) (van den Berk 2002), which may be an important consideration. Unfortunately, as close relatives of the elms, Zelkova are susceptible to many of the same problems of disease and foliage pests as Ulmus. They can be killed by DED if infected, but there is some evidence that they are less attractive to the Scolytus beetles that carry the fungus, and that infection is by no means always fatal (Andrews 1994). Damage to the foliage from the Elm Leaf Beetle and other insects can, however, be quite severe

    Zelkova - Trees and Shrubs Online

    linaria_gw thanked Embothrium
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Interesting about Zelkovas and DED. I worked for many years on a university campus that has some really nice plantings, including at least two groups of Zelkovas, though I don’t know the cultivar. One set must be 35+ years old, but showed no insect or disease issues even though elms rarely last beyond their teens here in NH.

    They are the line of green trees across the center of this photo. They turn a combo of burnt orange and burgandy in the fall.


    linaria_gw thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
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